Knicks Morning News (2014.06.01)

  • [New York Times] Spurs Edge Thunder, Set Up Finals Rematch With Heat (Sun, 01 Jun 2014 05:50:37 GMT)

    The San Antonio Spurs dug deep to score a thrilling 112-107 overtime victory over the Oklahoma City Thunder on Saturday to advance to the NBA Finals and a championship rematch against the Miami Heat.

  • [New York Times] Spurs Beat Thunder in OT, Advance to NBA Finals (Sun, 01 Jun 2014 04:59:47 GMT)

    San Antonio fought off Father Time, the league MVP and an injury to its best player to return to the NBA Finals.

  • [New York Times] Spurs 112, Thunder 107: Duncan Gives Spurs Another Shot at the Heat (Sun, 01 Jun 2014 04:49:27 GMT)

    Tim Duncan hit a fadeaway jumper late in overtime to give San Antonio a needed cushion on the way to winning the Western Conference finals and setting up a rematch with the Miami Heat in the finals.

  • [New York Times] Rematch Time: Spurs vs. Heat in NBA Finals (Sun, 01 Jun 2014 03:44:44 GMT)

    A year ago, the Spurs-Heat matchup in the NBA Finals was considered a classic.

  • [New York Times] Spurs’ Parker Misses Second Half With Ankle Pain (Sun, 01 Jun 2014 01:59:41 GMT)

    Spurs guard Tony Parker missed the second half of Game 6 of the Western Conference finals because of left ankle soreness.

  • [New York Daily News] Fisher wants TO before any talk with Phil (Sun, 01 Jun 2014 05:58:42 GMT)

    Derek Fisher lingered on the Thunder’s home court after its season ended on Saturday night with a bitter overtime loss to the Spurs, and after he might have played his final game as an NBA player.

  • [New York Daily News] Kerr says he came close to deal with Knicks (Sun, 01 Jun 2014 00:24:49 GMT)

    Steve Kerr might have strung Phil Jackson along, but he never committed to taking the Knicks coaching job, before he settled on accepting the Warriors’ vacancy.

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    12 thoughts to “Knicks Morning News (2014.06.01)”

    1. And here we are, set for a rematch to one of the most memorable Finals in recent history. On one hand I’d love to see Lebron shut up the naysayers doubting his GOAT status and enter the pantheon of Three-Peats. On the other hand, who doesn’t love Pop, Duncan, and Parker besides Eva Longoria, Doris Burke, and Duncan’s cheating ex.

      Conversly I’m glad OKC and Indiana didn’t make the trip. Making, much less winning, an NBA championship is hard work. It deserves to go the guys who bust there ass more than anyone. It’s not a coincidence that two of best coaches in the league are here. They run a tight ship with everyone, from superstars to role players know there role and what’s expected of them. No one player is above the team.

      Now take a look at Indy, Simmons covers this pretty well, but essentially this is very good but particularly great team that happened to take Lebron and company to the wire last year and started buying their own hype. You have team infighting, guys stealing wives, and Lance trying to prove to America who swings the biggest cock. Considering how tame most player interviews are, and then consider most of his teammates openly admit they dont want him back.

      Likewise Westbrook actually is one of the top 10 players in the NBA. The difference is humility. Lebron and Duncan sacrifice numbers for wins. Westbrook’s is clearly HEROBALL. Its obnoxious, especially on a team with KD. And selfishness should be its own reward.

      That said welcum back to the stage, Spurs-Heat. Hope you survive the X-perience.

    2. Westbrook is not a top 10 player. Top 30 maybe, but not top 10.

    3. To steal from Ephus, there isn’t anything that Russel Westbrook can’t do on a basketball court, there isn’t anything that Russel Westbrook won’t do on a basketball court. After seeing Miami vs. Indiana, I would have to say that Spurs are probably the only team that has a chance of out-executing Miami.

    4. Agree about Westbrook, freaky athletic ability but highly questionable decision making, often at the worst possible times (7 turnovers last night although Durant also had 7) I would take a healthy Tony Parker over him in a heartbeat, age difference notwithstanding.

      And Frank, that clip is indeed awesome. As someone mentioned on an earlier thread, it’s like a different sport than what the Knicks play.

    5. One thing you have to keep in mind when you start doing the who is and who isn’t a top 10 guy in the league is that the average person’s top-10 seems to have about 25 guys. If you listen to the announcers then the Heat have two top 10 guys, as do the Thunder, the Clips, the Rockets, etc. That top-10 starts to get awfully full awfully fast.

      That said, Westbrook is not close to my personal top-10, and I say that as a person pretty strongly in the eye-test camp. He does things that no (or very few) other players in the league can do which I think tends to make him overrated. When you see a guy do something that 99.9% of the league can’t do it’s natural to start thinking that this guy is better than those other 99.9%. But he just misses too many shots. Part of it is on Brooks I think, because that offense is so stale that it’s hard for the role players to get many shooting opportunities, and consequently you end up with Westbrook (and Durant to a lesser extent) forcing things at the end of the shot clock after possessions where nothing happened. But that only exsuses part of it. To a certain extent he just doesn’t know what a good shot is. He shot 5.5 3s per 36 minutes and he has never made more than 33% in a season. For a guy with his penetration ability that’s just stupidity.

    6. To carryover from the last thread.

      Ephus, with the new TV contracts and the possible jump in salary cap for teams, as a player would it be smart to opt in then sign the 3 year deal with an ETO for the third year to get another big contract when every team will likely have more money to use?

      Melo could sign a three year extension with a player option for the third year, but not an ETO. The difference between a player option and an ETO is minimal. If Melo thinks he could command a big salary in 2017-18 because the salary cap is going to go up dramatically after the new media deal come online in 2016-17, he could take that risk. On the other hand, either side may re-open the CBA in the summer of 2017, so he would be taking the risk that the next CBA would be more restrictive.

      @33 thanks ephus. I never thought about the extension possibility. that may also be a decent option, but even with the maximum salary decreases, won’t the overall cap hit of the deal be more than signing for 5 years / 90 million?

      If Melo signs a three year extension during 2014-15, he can reset his salary at any level for 2015-16. He would be limited to 7.5% raise/decrease for 2016-17 and 2017-18. He would get $23.5 million for 2014-15 under his old contract. If he set his 2015-16 salary at $18 million, there would be enough room for two more max (or near max) salaries for players like Love and Rondo. Because the max salary for Lebron would be higher, there might not be enough room for Lebron, Melo plus a third max salary. Figuring out how to make Melo + Lebron + ??? work is a problem the Knicks are unlikely to have and would be happy to face.

      I will be shocked if the Knicks can get Carmelo to agree to 5 years/$90 million. He could probably get 4 years/$90 million from another team. 5 years/$100 million could be structured to give $18 million in 2015-16.

    7. Oh also along the same lines, am I insane for starting to think Ibaka is the Thunder’s second best player. he changes so much for that team defensively.

    8. I think Westbrook, like many players, has top-10 potential. Athletically the guy is 2nd only to LeBron and when he’s focused is an absolute havoc on the defensive end. His problem, also like many players, is his decision making leaves much to be desired (that ridiculous shot towards the end of the game and several key turnovers stand as excellent examples).

      Focused and smart/wise/prudent Westbrook is, I believe, a top 10 player. Any other variety of Westbrook is a crapshoot really; gonna take the bad with the good. Kind of like a tamer, better version of JR but still in that same sort of “can and will do anything” mold.

    9. I think Brooks was a great coach for Westbrook’s development by giving him a long leash, but now Westbrook needs a coach who will fine tune his game and hold him way more accountable for his shot selection. Westbrook is a top-10 talent, but he’s not a top-10 player right now imo.

    10. I would say Ibaka is a better than Westbrook. But it’s close. Westbrook just isn’t a top ten player. I love how well rounded his game is but his lack of offensive effiiciency holds him back. I do love that he hits his free throws.

      As for Heat – Spurs.


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