Knicks Morning News (2013.12.08)

  • [New York Times] Ellis Hits Winner and Mavs Beat Blazers 108-106 (Sun, 08 Dec 2013 05:55:19 GMT)

    Monta Ellis hit a 21-foot jumper at the buzzer and the Dallas Mavericks snapped the Portland Trail Blazers’ four-game winning streak with a 108-106 victory on Saturday night.    

  • [New York Times] Nets 90, Bucks 82: In a Battle of the Lowly, the Nets Come Out on Top (Sun, 08 Dec 2013 05:42:34 GMT)

    The Nets grabbed a sorely needed win against the Milwaukee Bucks in a battle of the two teams with the worst records in the Eastern Conference.    

  • [New York Times] Cousins Leads Kings Past Jazz 112-102 in OT (Sun, 08 Dec 2013 05:20:05 GMT)

    DeMarcus Cousins had 28 points and Isaiah Thomas scored 23 of his 26 points after halftime to help the Sacramento Kings snap a six-game skid with a 112-102 overtime victory against the Utah Jazz on Saturday night.    

  • [New York Times] Roundup: Wade and Inside Game Return for Miami in Win at Minnesota (Sun, 08 Dec 2013 04:45:32 GMT)

    Dwyane Wade returned from a two-game absence, LeBron James had 14 rebounds to lead a rejuvenated effort on the boards, and the Heat ended a two-game losing streak.    

  • [New York Times] George, Pacers Power Past Spurs 111-100 (Sun, 08 Dec 2013 04:13:30 GMT)

    Paul George scored 28 points and the Indiana Pacers powered past San Antonio 111-100 Saturday night, snapping an 11-game skid against the Spurs.    

  • [New York Times] Lopez Leads Nets to 90-82 Win at Bucks (Sun, 08 Dec 2013 04:13:25 GMT)

    Brook Lopez scored 32 points, Joe Johnson had 15 and the Brooklyn Nets beat the Milwaukee Bucks 90-82 on Saturday night.    

  • [New York Times] Thompson Has 30 and Warriors Top Grizzlies 108-82 (Sun, 08 Dec 2013 03:58:29 GMT)

    Klay Thompson scored 30 points and David Lee finished with 23 to help the Golden State Warriors defeat the short-handed Memphis Grizzlies 108-82 Saturday night.    

  • [New York Times] Jennings Leads Pistons Over Bulls 92-75 (Sun, 08 Dec 2013 03:43:16 GMT)

    Brandon Jennings scored 33 points and the Detroit Pistons beat the short-handed Chicago Bulls 92-75 on Saturday night for their fourth consecutive victory.    

  • [New York Times] James’ Rebounding Sparks Heat Over Wolves (Sun, 08 Dec 2013 03:40:19 GMT)

    LeBron James had 21 points, eight assists and 14 boards for his first double-digit rebounding game of the season, leading the Miami Heat to a 103-82 victory over the Minnesota Timberwolves on Saturday night.    

  • [New York Times] Irving Helps Cavaliers Beat Clippers 88-82 (Sun, 08 Dec 2013 03:37:29 GMT)

    Kyrie Irving, coming off the first scoreless game of his career, scored 20 points and the Cleveland Cavaliers defeated the Los Angeles Clippers 88-82 Saturday night.    

  • [New York Times] Hamilton Leads Nuggets Over 76ers 103-92 (Sun, 08 Dec 2013 02:43:13 GMT)

    Jordan Hamilton hit three straight 3-pointers late in the fourth quarter to help the Denver Nuggets overcome a slow start for a 103-92 win over the Philadelphia 76ers on Saturday night.    

  • [New York Daily News] Knicks should continue to spread the scoring (Sun, 08 Dec 2013 04:32:31 GMT)

    Mike Woodson wants the Knicks to continue spreading the ball to reemerge from their early funk, and he intends to continue spreading the minutes as he has during the team’s first winning streak of the season.    

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    12 thoughts to “Knicks Morning News (2013.12.08)”

    1. True or False:
      Bargs TS% higher than Duncan’s.
      Andrea more blocks/game than Andre (Drummond).
      Bargs career bests for ORB%, BLK%, 2FG%, TOV%, WS/48.
      Bargs below career average for DRB% and 3FG%.

      All true. At the end of last season, I felt we missed an opportunity to thread the needle in the EC. But now it’s looking like this season might provide an even greater opportunity: Roses’ injury, Wade’s knee looking more and more like a real problem, and Pacers beatable deploying spread offense/Shump guarding George. Barring injuries, real obstacle might be coaching (lineups, minutes allocation, defensive scheme, how JR is used…) and Knick mgmt (ill-advised trades). Here’s hoping the tortoise wins this race!

    2. I read an article on where MWP said something like “we are finally learning how to play alongside each other”. If so, that’s great. But along the way there has been a revelation: we have ALOT of guards. I guess no one could foresee the drafting and opportunistic play of TH2. I for one had hoped that JR would not be in the rotation this soon and we would see a lot of a Prigioni/Udrih pairing on that second unit. At first I thought having as many guards as we have now would be bad, but now with the emergence of TH2, I think it gives the team a new found flexibility. If JR gets untracked, I think his salary is a steal once he resembles the 6th man of the year JR. At that point, he should be able to fetch more talent in return than Shump, should the team look to trade. Regardless of who gets traded, I think it would be wise to free up some backcourt playing time for Udrih. Really what the team should have done is signed a youngin to develop like Ian Clark. Udrih is just wasting away at the end of our bench.
      Also, whereas earlier I believed starting Tyson and Bargniani would be the best way to go..I’m not so sure about that now. I still think that is a great option, but after watching STAT, I don’t want the team to have to lean on him very much. So maybe MWP should start to give Melo room to operate and space for the PnR when Tyson returns. That also, with Kmart showing he deserves more burn, gives Bargnani more room- and time- to operate. That said we still need to bring Tyler back AND as another big to help Kmart and STAT play minutes that allows them to be most effective. Kmart’s old and STAT’s still valuable in spurts. I don’t wanna see the team lean on either 2 too heavily. I think the team can pull off a huge turn around..but they HAVE to play their card very well. And that’s on Woodson more than anyone else

    3. Re:Bargnani averaging more blocks than Drummond – maybe the biggest surprise this year is that he is averaging more blocks than all but 14 players in the entire league (and that he’s averaging the same number per 48 as Dwight Howard).
      Has anyone else noticed that the Knicks are once again first in the league in fewest turnovers and turnover differential?

    4. I was just looking at the Espn team statistics and noticed something really surprising — the Knicks are decent or better in almost every statistical category — including top ten in blocked shots, steals, three point defense, fewest turnovers, etc. Another oddity is that, despite their matador interior d, teams take a lot of three point shots against them and they take fewer 2 point shots against them than against any team in the league. The only stat at which the Knicks are truly atrocious is free throw differential. They give up the most foul shots in the league and take the second fewest. They average giving up 8 (!) points more from the foul line than they score.

    5. Bargs TS% higher than Duncan’s.
      Andrea more blocks/game than Andre (Drummond).

      No offense, but so what? It’s sort of funny that Duncan has a higher TS% than Duncan, but so do a lot of guys. Duncan has, by far, the lowest TS% of his career this season. And is Drummond even a good shot blocker? Bargs has a lower TS% and a lower blocks% than Mozgov. Does that mean he’s a good player or a bad player?

    6. From Seth:
      Knicks wearing orange (shit!)
      KMart out w/ sore ankle, TH2 starting
      Kelly O out for Celts

    7. I’m sure the Nets have some nice statistics of their own. With all due respect, citing the Knicks for some statistical quirk is a deliberate attempt at covering the sky with one finger. We have a bad team in New York and two wins against some of worst in the NBA does not a trend make.

    8. Brian Cronin December 8, 2013 at 5:13 am

      I am loving this stretch of games. The Celtics suck and, most importantly, they don’t have a great point guard. Their coach is amazing, though. I wish he was the coach of the Knicks.

      SMH. He just can’t help himself. . .

    9. Really nice profile of Mr. Silverman (and those other blogs).

      Well deserved.

      Terrible journalism. Everybody knows that sports bloggers don’t do anything other than not watching the games in their mother’s basements. Seriously though, nice profile

      No offense, but so what?

      We have a bad team in New York and two wins against some of worst in the NBA does not a trend make.

      I think it’s just a little optimism from a few fans who have had a crappy year watching the Knicks. It doesn’t mean the knicks are championship contenders or that they will win the next 66 games in a row or that James Dolan is smart or that CAA knows how to run a team. Just a few nice thoughts going into a noon game wearing those terrible Orange jerseys.

    10. KMart out w/ sore ankle, TH2 starting

      If only we had another body on the bench who could provide defense! Unfortunately, this could mean some Amar’e at the 5 experiements.

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