Knicks @ Wizards or..”It’s a total wash(ington).”

New York visits Washington as the season draws to a close.  The Wiz have played down to everyone of late.  The Knicks need to keep losing to hold on to the top draft position. So it should surprise nobody that we could win.

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34 thoughts to “Knicks @ Wizards or..”It’s a total wash(ington).””

  1. Who needs to get rid of their coach more? Washington or OKC? I am a big “The Thunder need a new coach” guy, but I think the answer is actually Washington. Wittman is gaaaaaaaaaaaaarbage. They seem like the perfect image of a team that is just waiting to get a real coach to make the next leap. Only the decided to wait a season too long. They now wasted a year of Pierce’s career for no reason.

  2. Wittman is just…dreadful. Granted, they’ve been crushed by injuries, but it’s like every time he coaches it’s the first time. As for Brooks, the Knicks fan in me loves him from his playing days, but the basketball fan in me hates him for being a mediocre coach who’s substitution patterns are odd and who might have wasted the years with KD and Russ if KD leaves in FA.

  3. Whitman got them to play D and it was working at the start if the season, but the offense is so bad, And that is a damn shame with arguably a top 3 backcourt in Wall and Beal. He is bad, but he isn’t total garbage. Got them to the playoffs and even won a series.

    Meanwhile….

    10 points in the first Q?
    “Shiiiiiiiiiiiit. That’s some shameful shit, String.”

  4. Please tell me that D’Antoni endorsement was a joke. C’mon. Do the right thing.

  5. @3 True he ain’t garbage, he’s a professional coach and former player. But, to have those pieces in Wall, Beal, Pierce, Gortat, playing in the east, and still be in their current position? What’s better than garbage, but still something you don’t ever want to see again?

  6. D’Antoni with Russel, KD, Ibaka and Dion Motherfucking Waiters?-shit, I’d pay to see that.

  7. But, why him? Ok. He did the ssol offense, right? Pace and space. At this point, that’s the entire league’s M.O. Plus, it ain’t like the Thunder are defensive juggernauts, and the d ain’t really…Mr. Pringles ( I’m stealing that because it’s the greatest thing ever ) forte.

  8. Oh, I like D’Antoni and would like to see how he’d do in the post-ssol NBA with a good team. I’d probably want someone else if I was on OKC fan.

  9. D’Antoni’s defensive woes are so overrated. Yes, he’s clearly not a great defensive coach, but he’s not awful, either. He just isn’t a Thibs-type that can make shitty defenders play good defense. He does that on offense but not on defense. So on defense he is constrained by the talent given him. But he’s not an actively bad defensive coach. His Suns teams were middle of the road (17, 16, 13, 16) and he had Nash and STAT as major players and they’re both woeful defenders. The first time he had good defenders with the Knicks, they were a top five defense when he was fired.

    D’Antoni’s problem has been that he has alienated his stars since Phoenix. So yeah, he likely would be a non-starter in OKC. He’s obviously best suited to a team with younger players. He was amazing that last season in Los Angeles, and yet he somehow got blamed for taking that pile of shit to 27 wins. This year’s Lakers team has more talent than that team, for crying out loud.

  10. The saddest part of this season is that now that Cole is finally in game shape, the season is over. We will never know what could have been.

  11. D’antoni-Westbrook was not a thing meant to happen, unless you enjoyed Sprewell-PJ. The thing that makes Scott Brooks so evil is that he is a really good guy with zero snark and everyone loves him. So it’s hard to get rid of him even when it’s obvious that he’s the second worst coach in the league, and that’s only if Byron Scott counts. Wittman is a bad coach, but I don’t think he’s as bad as Brooks. Brooks may be great with the players, but he’s horrible with just about everything else. Their offense looks like the first olympic team game or a Mcdonald’s all american game. And I don’t think OKC would play any differently if they weren’t allowed to see the clock or the bonus situation. Yet none of that is his worst trait, which is his terrible habit of benching Durant and Westbrook simultaneously.

  12. Mr. Pringles ( I’m stealing that because it’s the greatest thing ever )

    Chiming in to remind the entire world that my wife was the first to notice the fact that the Pringles can was modeled on D’Antoni. That is all.

  13. It’s telling that discussing who should coach OKC is more interesting than a Knicks game.

  14. The thing that makes Scott Brooks so evil is that he is a really good guy with zero snark and everyone loves him.

    To a certain extent, you’re absolutely correct. Brooks is an exceptionally likable guy and very much a players’ coach. But I think a lot of it is tied in to him being the first pro coach Westbrook ever had and the second coach Durant had (after one season with literally the coach from the Sprewell situation). That’s just a perfect position for him to be in. Notice that D’Antoni didn’t have problems with his stars until he started coaching guys who weren’t tied to him for their developmental years (Nash doesn’t count, as obviously a guy like Nash is going to love D’Antoni). STAT, Marion and Joe Johnson all loved D’Antoni, but Melo, Kobe and Howard all did not. So I’d like to see D’Antoni start over with some young guys he could mold. He was so impressive with the shitty young guys in Los Angeles last season. While it is better for the Lakers long term to suck this year, if D’Antoni were still their coach I guarantee they would be a lot better than they currently are, as this team has a good deal more talent than last year’s team, Scott just doesn’t know how to use it at all.

  15. @BC

    Didn’t STAT and to a lesser degree Marion have issues with MDA in Phoenix?

  16. Both Marion and STAT eventually had problems with the Suns, but on the business side of things. They were both irked that the Suns were not looking to pay them. In Marion’s case, it was also partially the fact that since they knew they weren’t planning re-signing him, that they kept shopping him around the league. Remember, if Phoenix offered STAT the same offer that the Knicks gave him, there is about a 100% chance he would have stayed in Phoenix.

    But their issues were never on the basketball side of things, like they were with Melo, Kobe and Howard. By the way, do note that I do think it was ultimately D’Antoni’s fault for his problems with those three stars. I think that all three of them were unreasonable with their complaints, but it’s the coach’s job to make things work. If you can’t sell your star player on your system, then even if they’re being foolish, that’s still on you.

  17. Great line by Boogie. I saw the game and it was aestethically nice. Still, two losses in a row and his shot selection is so bad that he actively reminded me why I don’t want him on the Knicks. I mean, you all saw Harden and Davis in those two games, right? That’s how a superstar plays. And, by the way, that’s (kinda) how Cousins was playing under Mike Malone. Vivek and Jim Buss are our best chances to a little bit faster rise of the Knicks. Is McLemore available for Ricky Ledo and Bargs?

  18. I wonder if the Kings will make a play for Lawson now that Karl is there. Did they get along?

  19. Yeah, Cousins sux. Just like that chucker Westbrook. Give me Chandler and Prigs any time over them.

  20. I think Ledo has to be back next year. I know overall he has been dreadful, but it’s clear he has some serious tools to work with. I think you have to give him one more season at that age.

  21. I more or less agree with Brian on D’Antoni.

    95% of the people that criticize him as a defensive coach either foolishly measure defense by PPG without looking at pace, never consider the personnel he coached, or don’t understand the systematic tradeoffs he tends to make to help offense that hurt defense, but net to a positive.

    His downside is that he’s stubborn as all hell and inflexible with his system.

    As far as the stars he’s fought with go, he and Melo were match made in hell. I’d bet anything he got sick to his stomach the day that trade was made because he knew it wouldn’t work unless Melo changed his whole game – which was not going to happen.

    Kobe can’t get along with anyone. He trusted Phil because he’s won, but they fought all the time. He ran Shaq out of town. The guy a dick on some levels.

    Gasol wanted to play in the post and pouted like a girly man for an entire season when D’Antoni tried to stretch him out to create space for Howard in the P&R or benched him to keep them off the court together.

    I don’t even count Howard. 60% of that was him fighting with Kobe, 15% of it was Phil telling him privately he belonged in the post instead of the P&R, and 25% was Howard’s immaturity and inability to deal with everything going on in his career at that point. He’s playing like he did with D’Antoni now with no trouble.

    D’Antoni ran into some of the league biggest pains in the ass.

  22. I never said that Cousins sucks. I just don’t like the way he plays. Prigioni is a wonderful basketball player whose main deficiency is age.

  23. Here’s a “What If?” question:

    What if D’Antoni had chosen to coach the Bulls in 2008 and the Knicks had ended up with Mark Jackson?

    D’Antoni was a man married to a system that required a non-existent personnel. Jackson, on the other hand, had no system to speak of, but proved to be good at one thing: getting players to like him.

    Hmmmm.

  24. I think Ledo has to be back next year. I know overall he has been dreadful, but it’s clear he has some serious tools to work with. I think you have to give him one more season at that age.

    Generally, I’m not a tools guy, but:

    1. Ricky Ledo is only 22

    2. The Knicks are seriously fucking awful

    3. We are going to (hopefully) have lots of available roster spots.

    So why not? I’d rather keep Ledo next year instead of Smith, Bargs, Thomas or Wear at a start.

  25. Gasol wanted to play in the post and pouted like a girly man for an entire season when D’Antoni tried to stretch him out to create space for Howard in the P&R or benched him to keep them off the court together.

    As someone who thought Gasol’s decline was significantly age-related, I feel like I have to point out that Gasol was pretty much right. Some of it is poor roster construction, but Gasol was definitely being used improperly by mr pringles

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