Game thread and Eulogy: Knicks v. Nuggets

Next to nobody is going to read this.  And that is probably a good thing because besides the fact that it is written by easily the least talented member of the staff, there really isn’t anything a Knick fan is going to want to see here. To the old site vets who know better than to waste your time, good call.  To any newbies or optimists, you have been warned.

Still here? Okay then.

I’ve looked at the schedule and concluded that we are doomed.  Including this Sunday matinee the Knicks have 24 games left until the end of the year.  There are only 6 games on the schedule that a reasonably intelligent Knicks fan–the ones who knew better than to read this–would expect to win (Nuggets, Bucks, Wolves, Sixers, Thunder, and Hornets) the last of those six games is on December 5.  And are any of us sure we can win all of those?  Even though nobody is still reading, I’m going to assume you all said “No”.

So on January 1, 2015 the Knicks could be something like 8 and 26.  They are playing that poorly.  And even if Cal and Bargs return, neither of them will fix the two glaring problems with this team: Offense and Defense.  The Knicks are 26th in Defensive rating and 21st in Offensive rating.  Thankfully they decided to pair that with the slowest pace in the NBA (88.6) so while we are dying at least we are dying slowly.

So as the game is set to start on a cold Sunday morn, I think the words of Richard Pryor portraying the Rev James L. White are most appropriate: “Friends, we are gathered here today to lay to rest…”

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50 thoughts to “Game thread and Eulogy: Knicks v. Nuggets”

  1. What’s Afflalo’s career high?…correction…what will be Afflalo’s career high after today’s game?

  2. What’s Afflalo’s career high?…correction…what will be Afflalo’s career high after today’s game?

    43 I think. J.R. is doing everything possible to see that Afflalo gets 50. Every time down, J.R. camps out on defense at about the elbow and just gives Afflalo about 8-10 feet of open space. J.R. can’t possibly close that gap fast enough as we can clearly see. Why aren’t the coaches adjusting that? That is an easy fix. I would have started Early over Smith today.

  3. JR Has three assists and eight points and a plus/minus of 0, so his offense has balanced his defense so far

  4. It’s a little disturbing seeing a suckfest between us and the Gallo/Chandler/Mozgov/Robinson Knuggets. This game is like watching a version of Sliding Doors where both the get-on-the-train and the miss-the train parallel universes were equally catastrophic.

  5. I seem to remember some posts here about how the greatness of Lawson and Faried were supposed to carry the Nuggets to the next level. I’m pretty sure this is not the level they were hoping for.

  6. How in the world did the Nuggets need 11 mins and 59 secs of the 2nd quarter to make a FG?? Holy crap. But I’ll gladly take it lol.

  7. This game is like watching a version of Sliding Doors where both the get-on-the-train and the miss-the train parallel universes were equally catastrophic.

    Thread over, man. Thread over.

  8. The majority of the open 3pters the Nuggets are getting is due to JR completely losing his man for no reason whatsoever. Constantly drifts into the lane to help for no reason then has no chance to get back to his man.

  9. did they ever answer the trivia question, which was who was the leading Knick scorer off the bench all time?

  10. did they ever answer the trivia question, which was who was the leading Knick scorer off the bench all time?

    Yes, Al Harrington had 42 once.

  11. Al Harrington, 42 pts in a game vs Philly in 2009. Thats who I thought the answer was too. BTW please put Melo back in the game before this game really gets scary.

  12. Melo with 28 pts on 14 FGA. This following games with 27 pts on 17 FGA and 46 pts on 26 FGA. I guess his shooting slump is over.

  13. What just happened? Did we, did we Wii.. We… Whe… Win? Is that how you say that?

    I’m not sure what this “win” thing is, but I know we didn’t lose.

  14. Did u see Lance Stephenson slapping himself in the face to try to draw an offensive foul last night?? Makes that Faried flop look tame lol.

  15. Did u see Lance Stephenson slapping himself in the face to try to draw an offensive foul last night?? Makes that Faried flop look tame lol.

    Please post a link, I’d really love to see that.

  16. Thomas B. in charge of all game threads until we lose…

    Sure. I’m not busy for the next few days. But if we keep winning the A-list writers will be interested again. I usually only write when it doesn’t appear that anyone else will.

  17. If Melo can shoot like this when Shump and Calderon get back, the Knicks might not suck all that bad. That would of course be the case in a year when good big men are set to be drafted at the top of the lottery. Montrezl Harrell should be a fun Knick to have.

    #PayDaShump
    #FreeCole

  18. yeah, in fairness to Lance, I think the slap itself was unintentional, though the reaction was obviously exaggerated. Faried’s stunt is impressive in that he, boogie and Rudy Gay basically coordinated a triple flop (or a grenade spontaneously exploded between them).

  19. This team is playing at about where I expected after factoring in the Calderon injury, maybe we get another win and are 4-7 or even 5-6 if Calderon is healthy. There’s not a single player on the roster (other than Melo) that doesn’t have a GLARING weakness. The Triangle is not a friendly system for our best defensive players (other than Shump). Jason Smith, TH2 and Amare can score but are horrible defenders. Prigs and Larkin are overmatched more often than not at PG.

    But I do see some positive signs. Shump was playing well until the hip thing. Travis Wear looked less scrubby today. Larkin is hanging in there. Fisher’s lineups and sub pattern (or lack of one) is driving me nuts, but he doesn’t seem to be playing favorites (Woodson) or putting guys in his doghouse (D’Antoni.) So onward!

  20. I’d also add that Larkin is a nice defender for similar sized PGs like Lawson and burke. He did well in both games

  21. Larkin is a totally serviceable player. He’s had to play more than he should at this point, but it’s not his fault.

  22. His game today is exactly why you can’t base opinions purely on stats. He was 7/9 with 9 boards but had no impact on the game. At least 4 of those fgs were purely the ball bouncing to him off the offensive glass. He did nothing on offense or defense. I pitty who ever pays him

  23. Shaw has been an astonishingly bad coach. It’s weird, since he was such a hyped up coaching prospect. I, for one, thought he’d be excellent. The last time I recall being so far offbase on a coaching prospect was Byron Scott*. I thought he was going to be a great coach and he was also very hyped up as a coaching candidate and he’s been dogshit so far. Hmmm…I hope we don’t have to worry about there being a trend of hyped up former Laker players as coaches.

    *I also was offbase on Jacque Vaughan and Terry Porter, but I wasn’t as confident in those guys as much as I was in Scott – although Porter comes close. How could such a smart player like Porter be such a dumb coach? He made Alvin Gentry look like a strategic genius, for crying out loud!

  24. Shaw has been an astonishingly bad coach. It’s weird, since he was such a hyped up coaching prospect. I, for one, thought he’d be excellent. The last time I recall being so far offbase on a coaching prospect was Byron Scott*. I thought he was going to be a great coach and he was also very hyped up as a coaching candidate and he’s been dogshit so far. Hmmm…I hope we don’t have to worry about there being a trend of hyped up former Laker players as coaches.

    *I also was offbase on Jacque Vaughan and Terry Porter, but I wasn’t as confident in those guys as much as I was in Scott – although Porter comes close. How could such a smart player like Porter be such a dumb coach? He made Alvin Gentry look like a strategic genius, for crying out loud!

    Yes, it seems like former Lakers role players-now NBA coaches are quite bad at adapting (I mean, Byron Scott was kinda good when he had prime Jason Kidd and almost prime Chris Paul, then was absolutely sucky – and Brian Shaw was great as an assistant. I’ll pass on Kurt Rambis) but no one had Phil behind them. Phil won the last ring in 2010, so he demonstrated he could win in the modern era; I think we shouldn’t be concerned about Fisher in that sense. It’s obvious, though, that Fish doesn’t quite know yet what he wants to do (and has a discombobulated roster to tinker with, that’s for sure). That said, I’ll go out on a limb and I’ll say that by the end of the year we’ll have a clear system in place and that will do wonders next year. That was the plan. Plus, if Calderon gets healthy, the offense will be much more crispy, and Larkin will prove a very nice bench player (I’ll look for him to go to the prestigious Thibs School for Undersized Backup PGs next year).

  25. Speaking of Tibs, that psychopath has Pau leading the Bulls in minutes played so far. What could possibly go wrong with that plan?

  26. ptmilo November 16, 2014 at 1:58 pm
    It’s a little disturbing seeing a suckfest between us and the Gallo/Chandler/Mozgov/Robinson Knuggets. This game is like watching a version of Sliding Doors where both the get-on-the-train and the miss-the train parallel universes were equally catastrophic.

    If there were a hall of fame for Knickerblogger posts, this would get in on the first ballot.

    Well done.

  27. Shaw has been an astonishingly bad coach. It’s weird, since he was such a hyped up coaching prospect. I, for one, thought he’d be excellent. The last time I recall being so far offbase on a coaching prospect was Byron Scott*. I thought he was going to be a great coach and he was also very hyped up as a coaching candidate and he’s been dogshit so far. Hmmm…I hope we don’t have to worry about there being a trend of hyped up former Laker players as coaches.

    *I also was offbase on Jacque Vaughan and Terry Porter, but I wasn’t as confident in those guys as much as I was in Scott – although Porter comes close. How could such a smart player like Porter be such a dumb coach? He made Alvin Gentry look like a strategic genius, for crying out loud!

    I think part of the problem is that they haven’t really done a good job of getting him players that actually fit into the more halfcourt, grind out style that he wants to implement. The team still has most of the guys from that 57-win team 2 years ago that went 10 deep and they’ve actually added a few more nice rotations pieces. Too many guys that are good enough to get minutes, they don’t fit in to what the coach wants to do and once you start losing with a team like that everybody feels they should be getting more minutes. They need to make some trades that much is obvious, or the smart play would be to fire Shaw and hire MDA. This team actually has pretty good personnel for him to work with.

  28. I think part of the problem is that they haven’t really done a good job of getting him players that actually fit into the more halfcourt, grind out style that he wants to implement.

    I sort of agree, except my problem is why hire a coach who doesn’t fit the team you have? I know he was a hyped up prospect, but he couldn’t have been that hyped up, could he?

  29. Why hire a coach who doesn’t fit the team you have, let him start to build the team to fit his system, then trade everyone for a star who doesn’t fit it at all? NBA owners do a lot of stupid shit

  30. Why hire a coach who doesn’t fit the team you have, let him start to build the team to fit his system, then trade everyone for a star who doesn’t fit it at all? NBA owners do a lot of stupid shit

    Oh true, it wasn’t really a surprisingly stupid move by Denver. Just a regular stupid move.

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