Four off the floor: Key decisions for the summer Decision #1 — Should the Knicks keep D’Antoni?

With one year left on his contract, Mike D’Antoni’s future with the Knicks remains uncertain. While he managed to turn in the Bockers’ first winning season in a decade, the horror of the last ten years have understandably rendered Knick Nation incapable of tapping into a reserve of patience. Because there isn’t one. All indications are that D’Antoni has the backing of his players. The rest of New York? That’s a little more of a mixed bag.

Should the Knicks keep Mike D’Antoni, or try and find another coach?


Mike Kurylo: Of course they should keep him. Sure he’s had his fair share of mistakes, and I laid into him for leaving Jeffries on the court during a critical possession in Game 2. However, it’s unlikely that the Knicks will find a better coach on the open market. The downside for getting rid of D’Antoni is greater than the downside of keeping him. The only way New York should get rid of Mike D is if they have a coach that will, without a doubt, give them more wins next year. And how many coaches are there like that in the league?


Max Fisher-Cohen: The Knicks are stuck between a rock and a hard place. D’Antoni’s system maximizes Amaré’s talents. Unfortunately, because it gets great value out of cheap wing players, under D’Antoni Anthony is a waste of money. That said, with ‘Melo’s improvements from distance and on defense, I am confident that he can be effective in SSOL, and the lost value from our investment in him is outweighed by the loss we would see were Amaré forced to play in a system centered around ‘Melo. Therefore, I say keep D’Antoni. The roster will still need big adjustments, but Mike’s system is the best fit for our stars.


Jim Cavan: Mike D’Antoni has coached 63 players since he arrived from Phoenix in 2008. Sixty three. That’s more than 20 per season. And still there are many who believe Mike D’Antoni has had enough of a chance, and ought to be taken to pasture. Sure, late game blunders in the first two games of the Boston series certainly didn’t help his cause. If anything, it merely added a bitter icing to a calloused cake his critics had long since baked.

The elephant in the gym – and the cause célèbre of his detractors – continues to be D’Antoni’s… how do I say this… defensive indifference? The Bockers showed flashes of lock-down D, but flashes are not, and will never be, good enough. When you look at the teams who have won championships over the last 30 or so years, it’s hard to find one who didn’t take just as much – if not more – pride on the defensive end as they did on offense. Sure, it would be to watch the Knicks be the exception to this rule. But such a scenario is about as likely as JD and the Straight Shots headlining Lollapalooza.

The defense deficit wasn’t lost on the front office, which has “asked” D’Antoni to hire a defensive assistant. Steve Kerr tried that very thing during D’Antoni’s final season in Phoenix, recommending Tom Thibadeau for the roll of bad cop. D’Antoni ended up walking, clearly insulted by the notion that a really good offense doesn’t qualify as defense. But after a season – as promising as it was – in which they finished 22nd in the league in defensive efficiency, and with the pressure cooker of New York having made itself more than known, D’Antoni can’t afford to not listen this time.

That said, D’Antoni deserves a chance to finish what he started. Hopefully that means taking the team deep into the Playoffs in 2012. But if next April we find ourselves lamenting another sub-50 win season and subsequent first round exit, the cries from more critical corners won’t be silenced so easily.


John Kenney: Barring Bill Simmons’ dream scenario of Phil Jackson returning to coach his old team, I say keep d’Antoni.  Judging a coach off of half a season coaching a roster that was more gutted than a fish caught by Jared Jeffries is not a good move. If we need a coaching change, there will be time after next season to evaluate that. But does anyone think we will be a title-contending team next season? Why not allow the team to grow, see if Billups and Anthony can grow into a semi-SSOL system, and let the results determine whether or not d’Antoni’s contract deserves to be extended. There is little downside to the move, and as Mike says, there is not a coach available at this point who represents a clear upgrade from d’Antoni. One step I would like to see taken? Hiring a defensive coach to implement a more effective scheme.

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54 thoughts to “Four off the floor: Key decisions for the summer Decision #1 — Should the Knicks keep D’Antoni?”

  1. Call me crazy but if D’Antoni stays I see this team getting off to a real quick start next season. Probably wont have the talent to win much more, or even, 50 games but I think with a training camp and some motivated stars, and head coach, they will start the season on a roll.

  2. How refreshing that would be!
    I don’t know about 50 wins either…but let’s see what the summer brings in terms of talent.

  3. Ok honestly – I really want to get Clyde off as the announcer – sorry he is just too depressing for me. If the knicks want to win they’ll figure out a better way to entertian their fans. I want to be entertained and he is not. I know the TNT staff is expensive but come on. How about a few sexy chick instead. Clyde is too honest for me as a Knicks fan – TOO HONEST – YES TOO HONEST. I don’t want to here how great the other team is – I really don’t. But he seems to have a thing for basketball and not for the Knicks – howcome no one understands this. I could say that as long as Clyde (or someone like Clyde) keeps talking great about the opposing player the Knicks simply won’t win – I hope I’m wrong and I hope my mute button wont break etc. Clyde is an amazing judge of talent so give him the mentoring roll a la billups and give us – the fans – some postive announcers that feel the fan and thr audiance instead of thinking we dont exsist or some sexy chicks with beautiful smiles would be nice too. Wait, I know, have him do all the analysis after the buzzard sounds. At the end of the day he is just too manotone for my ears. Actually may e Clyde is just so GREAT and the rest of the team is not.

  4. I think if MDA is here it needs to change to osol (1 sec or less) or be called spaceball – if you have the space shoot the ball.

  5. Without naming posts, this blog is starting to feel like “One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest”

    I agree with most, give D’Antoni a full training camp and season with the same players and see how he does, then make a decision after next season.

  6. MDA did a great thing by getting guys fired up for those last too games but didn’t do the same for the POffs. Did he think the POffs were enough motivation? His job is to be more like Clyde and be negative at times – he needs to do that. Oh and he needs to play all 15 cause it’s not about him or if he stays here or not but about development even after he leaves – that would make him also sleep better at night.

  7. Tenebrous, dude some of the stuff you come out with is hilarious but most of the time just utterly ridiculous. I don’t know where you get your info from because whenever you post it’s just madness.
    And by the way, Clyde = Winning!

  8. Unless Phil Jackson decides he wants to end his career in NY I think D’A should be the coach- the only other real option is Adelman and that’s a lateral move at best (please no Calipari!). If he stays I think adding a defensive assistant is an obvious need and I doubt D’A would walk away from a second job if Walsh put the screws to him and demanded adding someone like Mike Brown provided his brother can still stay on the staff. I do think D’A’s going to have to meet Melo and Billups half way and add some different sets in the half court to take advantage of what they can do- a great head coach can run more than one scheme and it’s time for D’A to show he can do more than just run SSOL.

  9. I’d rather have Clyde than a “golden voiced” white dude. I love when Clyde yells at players, refs, coaches, et al. Love it.

  10. Zach Randolph just closed out the spurs. hit his last 5 or 6 shots to never let them back in it. incredible.

  11. yeah randolph just was so into that game, the whole series really. It’s amazing to see the Spurs just dominated physically. I know it was 4-2, but really it could have been 4-0. If you looked at the degree of difficulty of the shots memphis took vs. those the spurs had, you would have figured a blowout in Memphis’ favor every night.

    OKC has some really big big guys. It’ll be interesting to see how Randolph and Gasol deal with them. One thing I noticed about Gasol is he is really wide, so he can create space in the lane, and he’s excellent at catching the ball up high and getting a shot up without bringing the ball down.

  12. I am sort of happy for Randolph, strangely. Going to be interesting to see how he does with Ibaka on him.

  13. tenebrous:
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  14. I thought tenebrous was a joke account when “he” started, surprised it’s gone on this long.

    The Honorable Cock Jowles:
    I’d rather have Clyde than a “golden voiced” white dude. I love when Clyde yells at players, refs, coaches, et al. Love it.

    Clyde has gotten a lot better, but the one thing he needs to work on in the offseason is the word “peripheral”. not “puh-rih-fee-uhl”, dude, is everyone on MSG scared to correct him?

  15. This is a tough one. I have had major issues with Coach regarding the above cited defensive indifference, treatment of certain players, time management, poor play calling down the stretch, failure to call time outs to stem runs, failure to set plays after calling time outs and other issues. It also bothers me that his failure to coach defense has driven management to call for a defensive coordinator. This isn’t the NFL and I believe an NBA coach that is paid millions should be able to, at least, competently coach both sides of the court. If a defensive guru is hired, there could be clashes between the needs of the particular systems advocated by each coach. Who wins? I do not necessarily advocate canning the Coach, but I hope management is at least looking at the possibility. I do not have other coach’s to offer to the mix, but I do not think Mike D’s performance warrants a close minded approach, particularly given the team’s current make up.

  16. D’Antoni absolutely deserves more time and a team that is reasonably put together (not the post-trade ghost ship that was the Knicks bench). But I am weary of the absolute indifference to defense on most nights (but, strangely, not all). Because the Knicks do play good defense at times, it is clearly a matter of effort and priority, which means it goes back to coaching and values. Watching peer teams like the Sixers and the Grizzlies during the playoffs, I have seen better-prepared players. I want to see that here, and I therefore want to see a strong assistant coach dedicated to defense. Second best would be a chiseled Charles Oakley sitting on the bench, mute and stone-faced, looking angry. Damn it, I want to see some toughness from this team. Amar’e and Melo really do have this once in a while. But why so rarely?

    And did someone call the Clyde Police? I do not raise a toast to tenebrous’ posts.

  17. My vote is to keep D’Antoni. I think he was severely handicapped by all the personnel turnover and also handicapped by injuries in the playoffs. Honestly, I didn’t see a single prediction that the Knicks would beat Boston, and those predictions were made assuming a healthy Stoudemire and Billups. And none of the predictions were made based on coaching capability, it was all about the players. I realize the Knick’s defense isn’t the best, but it wasn’t the reason they lost to Boston (except for the third game). They just couldn’t score enough points. Their highest point total for any playoff game was 96. The players seem to like him this year and I think he needs to have a stable team for a year to see what he can do with it.

  18. Man, the Z-bo triumph hurts worse than our playoff losses. Caleb is right: There has been so much mismanagement in this organization (for over 10 years) that it’s almost laughable.

    Z-bo, despite his flaws, was clearly better than Curry from day 1. His contract was too big, but was it really that much more egregious than the Stat signing? And it was clear to everyone EVERYONE that the Z-bo/Curry front court was a horrible fit, and nothing was done. We should’ve traded Curry asap, even for expirings and draft picks.

    I hate to trudge up horrible memories, but I just wonder if something similar isn’t happening now. No one who knows basketball really likes the Stat/Melo combo, nor do they like Billups/Melo in the D’Antoni system. And yet we hedge and say “well if x learns y” or “if we can also bring in z” then it will all be ok.

    Then you look at teams like the Pacers and the Grizzlies who actually try to put a cohesive team together… I just think that our front office, headed by Dolan, is always looking to make a big splash instead of the right moves.

    So in reference to D’Antoni, sure I would give him another year – why pay him 6 mil to do nothing and then pay another coach on top of that? But is he the right fit for our new 1.5 stars? Hell no. And it’s easy to say “oh he just needs to adjust the system” but then he’s not maximizing Fields or Stat.

    Adleman would probably be a great coach for this team, although putting Stat in the half court all game will see a decrease in his level of play. He is a finisher. He needs to run with an adept passer. He’s not Boozer or Duncan. Maybe Melo can adjust his game to ssol – ultimately, he’s not that different from Gallo – but I just don’t know if Billups can.

    It really seems like not taking a point guard with the Jordan Hill pick is going to haunt us.

  19. @23 You are just now realizing that this franchise has been horribly mismanaged for the past ten years? And it’s “almost” laughable?

    There’s no point in wallowing in hindsight over Zbo. But if you really have to, don’t forget that Isiah traded away a stretch 4/5 in Channing Frye that we could have used in D’Antoni’s system.

  20. Doug:
    @23 You are just now realizing that this franchise has been horribly mismanaged for the past ten years? And it’s “almost” laughable?

    There’s no point in wallowing in hindsight over Zbo. But if you really have to, don’t forget that Isiah traded away a stretch 4/5 in Channing Frye that we could have used in D’Antoni’s system.

    I’m not as bummed about Channing. His three point shooting came out of nowhere and he’s still not very good. No one knew D’Antoni was coming at that point.

    But yeah, Curry was just I.T.’s pet project and he was going to crash and burn with him.

    I just think it’s funny that a supposedly “untradable” player just led his team to an upset over the #1 team in the league.

    Somehow, “Amazing” never happens in NYC. Before and after it’s here, sure.

    I think it’s a lack of patience in NYC that is media driven. Not to vilify the media, I just think that talk swirls here like a tornado and it pushes movement. The media is just not a factor in places like Indy or Memphis. There’s really just owner pressure, if that.

    D’Antoni for instance, had two years of awful players. Zach for a few games was probably the 2nd best player he had during his tenure. Then the roster gets turned over (twice) and his winning percentage is .512 for the year, we get to the playoffs for the first time in a decade and people want him gone??? Give the guy another year at least, sheesh.

    And by “almost” laughable, I mean it’s more sad than funny. Very sad.

  21. Re: Zach Randolph sorrow

    I, for one, would never lament the fact that Randolph isn’t a Knick. I think it is silly to do so, not only because I found him impossible to root for, but mostly because he never should have been a Knick in the first place. It was painfully clear what the Knicks needed back in 2007– to stockpile young talent and cut payroll with an eye to 2010. Trading a young center and a huge expiring contract for Randolph’s 4 year $60 million one was the absolute most criminal thing Isiah did during his time here. Evan worse than the Curry trade, which was at least done with the belief that Curry would save the franchise and some hope that it could work. The Randolph trade was a desperation move to “win now” (ie win 30+ games and hope to sneak into the playoffs) at the HUGE expense of any future hope to assemble a competitive basketball team.

    I still maintain the best move Donnie Walsh made was trading Zach Randolph for a guy with a broken heart.

  22. Bring back Jeff Van Gundy!! (In all seriousness, probably best to just to keep MDA for the last year of his contract and make him have a defensive specialist as an assistant coach, no matter how much he bitches).

  23. ess-dog, if it was my choice, I’d trade either amare or carmelo. They ARE a bad fit. The thing is that we all know that at least for the foreseeable future, that is not going to happen, so why bother talking about it?

  24. You know, Zach took a ton of abuse on this site during his tenure here. Much of it was deserved, but some of it was not, and there was a prevailing opinion that he was too dumb to ever improve. Imagine, he seems to have improved substantially in the last couple of years. His coach and teammates rave about him and the city loves him. He seems to have matured and put all of his demons in the past and to have improved his b-ball IQ and his leadership. That was a monster performance by him last night (and in game 5, that should have been a Memphis win) and he deserves the naysayers here to at least acknowledge his significant improvement in defiance of many stat-head assumptions. This is not to say that trading him was wrong, only that his improvement is really praiseworthy and would not have been predicted my many here. Let those who say that Carmelo and Amar’e can’t/won’t get better take heed.

    I also love Tony Allen, he is one tough dude on defense.

  25. There is nothing painful about watching Zach Randolph have one good playoff series. For the most part he was a good guy here. Kept his mouth shut and played pretty hard. He shot too many jumpers and didn’t play hard enough on D at that time. He’s bought into a team concept with Memphis and is maximizing his considerable talents. Good for him.

    We need our 2 main players of considerable talent to do the same thing. Buy in and take responsibility. The best way to do that is with stability. Memphis, through much criticism, made commitments to its players. Gay, Conley and Randolph were contracts that were much maligned. None of those players had a reputation as good defenders either. Turned out well for them this year. Now everyone is talking about their nice nucleus and they add a top 20 scorer to that next year in Gay. (BTW I think with the exception of Allen their D is over-rated and will get exposed against OKC. They caught a Spurs team on the downswing. The Spurs haven’t made any real noise in the playoffs since 2008. Two 1st rd outs and one 2nd rd sweep by Suns.)

    The Knicks organization is finally teetering on the brink of that it looks like. They resigned Billups a solid veteran who will lead Stat and Melo. Walsh seems to be coming back for 2 more years. MDA should also come back. By the way I haven’t heard anywhere that it was even being considered that he was going to get fired. He’s coming back. Let’s be honest. We got 30 games and 1 playoff series of a very disjointed unstable situation. We can’t draw any conclusions from that at all except maybe Chauncey’s fragility. I don’t buy that Melo and Stat don’t “compliment” each other at all. We really have no idea. This was extended training camp.

    BTW I find some similarities between Randolph and Melo. Can’t really put my finger on it.

  26. To think, the Melo Knicks dominated Memphis twice (I know the game in Memphis they needed a Melo buzzer-beater to win the game but the Knicks dominated that game throughout).

  27. It’s not worth the time to lament not keeping Z-Bo, let’s just appreciate a guy who has matured and made himself into an All Star and a leader. No one could have anticipated that. I’m sure Celtic fans wish they hadn’t let go of guys like Billups and Tony Allen, but you can’t be right every single time. Plus, trading Z-Bo at the time was a salary dump and not much more than that.

  28. It’s not lamenting Z-bo as much as the way our organization schitzophrenically chews up players/coaches/gms and spits them out again before they get their bearings and can actually contribute.

    In that regard, yes, I’m for keeping D’Antoni if only to provide some much needed stability for a while. Nothing against Billups as a player, but it would’ve been nice to keep Felton around. I think he could’ve integrated Melo and Stat into the offense. He’s not the ideal pg, but I wouldn’t mind getting him back if the terms were right for us.

  29. a good chunk of why Z-Bo is flourishing is that the gigantic Marc Gasol is next to him. if Gasol was in NY, D’Antoni would probably still be starting Jeffries over him.

  30. You know, i was looking at Eddy Curry’s stats, and he really wasn’t THAT bad. Everyone talks of how horrid our time with him was, and I agree, it was terrible. But it wasn’t just because of Curry. He really did have his uses. Namely, he shot a very very good percentage from the field. He scored us 19.5 points a game, with 57 percent shooting. That’s pretty good. And while 7 rebounds a game for a center is pretty weak stuff, its not THAT bad. The next year, with Z-Bo, he clearly wasn’t as affective, but a good chunk of that was the reduction in minutes he faced.

    Yeah, i know, Eddy Curry is a horrible player now, and he was never very good. But people always talk like he was I dont know… Jarred Jeffries. He wasn’t.

  31. and if his contract had expired in 2006-2007 instead of FOUR FULL SEASONS LATER, and we hadn’t given up multiple lottery picks for him, you’d have something of a point.

    this is a guy who played a whopping total of 74 minutes in his last 3 seasons while he was taking up a big chunk of our cap, in large part because he was too fat and lazy to ever get into shape, and once he finally did, his game suffered because he no longer had a huge ass to keep defenders away (a la Mark Aguirre/Mark Jackson).

    I hate him way more than I hate Isiah, and I even defended Curry for a year or two here when they first got him, but man did he prove me wrong.

  32. Jon Abby, do u really believe that Curry was curry’s fault? An NBA org has way too many weapons to protect their investment. Hence, Curry’s destiny was (or is) the fault of the Knicks. Unless, of course they have so much money to burn that they just gave up on him and hence prove my above point. Don’t give me he didn’t want to work out. Don’t blame the plant without blaming the planters. It’s easier to breath when you get off of Curry. Hence come in Stat, Drama and Billups – they’re waiting for your answer.

    Stat and Drama went to dinner. They invited billups. He said he didn’t have a suit to wear. They said don’t worry we’ll set some picks for you.

  33. tenebrous:
    Stat and Drama went to dinner. They invited billups. He said he didn’t have a suit to wear. They said don’t worry we’ll set some picks for you.

    Im literally speechless right now.

  34. jon abbey:
    a good chunk of why Z-Bo is flourishing is that the gigantic Marc Gasol is next to him. if Gasol was in NY, D’Antoni would probably still be starting Jeffries over him.

    I saw on that “Keep ‘Em or Dump ‘Em” feature on the Post website that more people wanted to keep Roger Mason Jr. than Balkman. Seems like most people in NY seem to think as dim-wittedly as D’antoni.

  35. ess-dog: And by “almost” laughable, I mean it’s more sad than funny.Very sad.

    My hypothesis: It’s easier to blame the coach than to accept that maybe you, reader, don’t know a damn thing about player evaluation, and that an “underperforming” set of superstars really says more about their innate ability than it does about the coach who acts primarily as event coordinator. D’antoni can do very little to make Carmelo a better player. Stat, too. They’re veterans, and they’re probably not going to accept “Don’t shoot that 18-foot jumper, Amar’e” or “Pass out of that triple-team, ‘Melo” very well. Dave Berri argues fairly convincingly that very few coaches have a significant impact on player productivity, and I tend to believe him. You get good players, and then you don’t have to worry so much about the coach. Maybe find one that doesn’t blow all his timeouts before the final possession, and one who doesn’t keep maybe the worst offensive player in the league in the game when his team needs a bucket.

  36. @42 It’s funny. This post shows exactly how poor your judgment is as related to the small tweaks that can make a major impact on wins and losses in a basketball game. You look at statistics and evaluate the game within that data set when what you should be doing is looking at the game and then evaluating the statistics. Melo improved his TS% under D’Antoni by taking and hitting more 3’s. There’s one minor tweak that is a direct result of coaching that could potentially change Melo’s efficiency and make him the volume AND high(er) efficiency player. What everyone else who WATCHED the Knicks post Melo noticed is that he is and able and willing passer. If MDA can get him to recognize when/where to pass and mildly improve his Ast% that could also have a major impact on his value and the team’s performance. Of course a lot of this is dependent on having someone better to pass to than Jared Jeffries but that’s Walsh’s problem. Stat tripled his Ast% this season. Made up for his loss in efficiency and the different role he had in the offense.

  37. d-mar:
    Without naming posts, this blog is starting to feel like “One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest”

    Very funny. And so correct. How I love that cuckoo’s nest.

    … Clyde = Winning!

    I just think Clyde is bored. It just seems that when the K r on a run, he finds a way to bring everyone down to earth. It’s very hard to win when someone is yapping at you that way – I understand … develop tougher skin.

    The Honorable Cock Jowles:
    I love when Clyde yells at players, refs, coaches, et al. Love it.

    I guess you have seats right behind him cause I never hear him doing that.

    @ Mr. Silverman: … Medication … well 5 Brasilian Nuts a day for prostate reduction … Almonds for sanity, clamness and worth … and this blog for everything else

    @ BBA, thank you. I nominate you in return.

    @ flossy

    … there are people who don’t like Clyde??What is wrong with said people?

  38. @ the H, I really must believe that the player want to win vs being right.

  39. @42, +1, and the K need to become a little more selfish in making a play. When the clock ends – it ends. Also, the players don’t know MDA, or eachother so well. They were kinda running like chicken with their heads. Is that on MDA? Is that on the players? is that on the management? I don’t know.

  40. cgreene:
    @42 It’s funny.This post shows exactly how poor your judgment is as related to the small tweaks that can make a major impact on wins and losses in a basketball game.

    So out of the 1400+ 3PA Anthony has accrued in his time in the league, I’m supposed to look at 125 of them and assume that the change is due to the coach? You don’t seem to understand causation and small sample sizes. You see a change in the numbers and you assume that it’s D’antoni’s system that did it. Felton’s 3PT% plummeted when he came to the NYK system. Is that D’antoni’s responsibility too?

    And your post demonstrates how you view NBA basketball. It’s different from collegiate and high school ball in that the players are really, really good at basketball. (Well, most of them.) You think that by watching the games, your judgment stands above the stats, but you’re not. I’m not, you’re not, the bloggers on this site are not (and thankfully, they know they’re not), ESPN is not, the coaches are not, and players are not either. Most players are not like Josh Smith in that you can simply say, “Stop taking threes,” and turn them into all-stars. That’s evident in the statistics that show that most coaches do not have a tangible impact on player value. You think they do, but the numbers say otherwise. I know which side I’m taking.

    And by the way, Stoudemire posted his lowest WS/48 since he was 20. Career low in TRB%. You think marginally improving his AST% makes up for a .06 drop in TS%? Buddy, you’re wrong.

  41. I think it is clear that Stoudemire’s drop in TS% comes from the point guard he is playing with and the style of play the Knicks are playing. He went from playing with Steve Nash, to playing with Chauncey “pass to Melo” Pull-ups towards the end of the season.

  42. I second tenebrous for a guest post. Man is a star in the making.

    “Almonds for sanity”. Brilliant!

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