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		By: Z-man		</title>
		<link>https://knickerblogger.net/2026/08/knicks-morning-news-2026-08-20/#comment-1028645</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2026 03:53:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The bottom line is that we are all speculating about something that hasn&#039;t occurred in a very long time, and never under these circumstances. I think it will all be worked out amicably. Unions like membership growth. There will be bigger fish to fry.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The bottom line is that we are all speculating about something that hasn&#8217;t occurred in a very long time, and never under these circumstances. I think it will all be worked out amicably. Unions like membership growth. There will be bigger fish to fry.</p>
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		By: Knick fan not in NJ		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2026 02:39:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[That doesn’t make sense to me.  My math didn’t account for the natural growth of the cap, but if you included that it would just mean the growth in the cap would be diluted by the expansion in the number of teams so that average salaries would still be less than without expansion.  You seem to be suggesting either that no one will notice this or that the owners will voluntarily adjust the percentage of the BRI that they give the players upwards to compensate.   I find both these possibilities quite unlikely..]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That doesn’t make sense to me.  My math didn’t account for the natural growth of the cap, but if you included that it would just mean the growth in the cap would be diluted by the expansion in the number of teams so that average salaries would still be less than without expansion.  You seem to be suggesting either that no one will notice this or that the owners will voluntarily adjust the percentage of the BRI that they give the players upwards to compensate.   I find both these possibilities quite unlikely..</p>
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		By: Z-man		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2026 02:19:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Most teams are over the salary cap anyway, and quite a few are just below the tax line. the NBA can negotiate that tax line and aprons a bit to keep the increase in actual total salary paid out, rather than the cap itself. It wouldn&#039;t probably take all that much of an adjustment.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most teams are over the salary cap anyway, and quite a few are just below the tax line. the NBA can negotiate that tax line and aprons a bit to keep the increase in actual total salary paid out, rather than the cap itself. It wouldn&#8217;t probably take all that much of an adjustment.</p>
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		By: Z-man		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2026 02:11:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My guess is that adjustments are going to be made to keep the salary cap fairly stable. Since there has been a steady a 5-10% increase in the cap every year, and adding 2 teams would result in only a 6.7% increase in the number of players, at worst, seems like it will be at worst a wash. I would guess that the players union can convince the owners to pay the difference between last year&#039;s 6.7% increase this past year and whatever watering down of BRI the added 2 teams causes. A 6.7% rise from the current cap of $166M times 32 teams comes out to something like $355M total. I&#039;m guessing that the NBA will be fine with eating that out of the $10+B that they will rake in. 

But that&#039;s not the issue, is it? Salaries are based on percentages, which rise as the cap rises. A 35% max will still be a 35% max.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My guess is that adjustments are going to be made to keep the salary cap fairly stable. Since there has been a steady a 5-10% increase in the cap every year, and adding 2 teams would result in only a 6.7% increase in the number of players, at worst, seems like it will be at worst a wash. I would guess that the players union can convince the owners to pay the difference between last year&#8217;s 6.7% increase this past year and whatever watering down of BRI the added 2 teams causes. A 6.7% rise from the current cap of $166M times 32 teams comes out to something like $355M total. I&#8217;m guessing that the NBA will be fine with eating that out of the $10+B that they will rake in. </p>
<p>But that&#8217;s not the issue, is it? Salaries are based on percentages, which rise as the cap rises. A 35% max will still be a 35% max.</p>
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		By: Knick fan not in NJ		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2026 00:57:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I would think this will slow down the growth in the salary cap since the cap is determined as a fraction of the BRI divided by the number of teams.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would think this will slow down the growth in the salary cap since the cap is determined as a fraction of the BRI divided by the number of teams.</p>
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		By: Knick fan not in NJ		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2026 00:39:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Expansion will give more players jobs, but the average salary per player will go down. If two teams are added there will be 32/30 more jobs (roughly 6.7% more jobs).  But revenues won’t go up that much because the national TV revenue won’t increase. Only the local revenue such as ticket sales will increase.  A smaller percentage increase in BRI than in the number of players will mean less money per player on average.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Expansion will give more players jobs, but the average salary per player will go down. If two teams are added there will be 32/30 more jobs (roughly 6.7% more jobs).  But revenues won’t go up that much because the national TV revenue won’t increase. Only the local revenue such as ticket sales will increase.  A smaller percentage increase in BRI than in the number of players will mean less money per player on average.</p>
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		By: Hubert		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2026 23:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt; but about what people like hubert are implicitly complaining about when they point to players not getting their fair share of climbing franchise values. in a normal business&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Actually I see it a little differently, I just didn&#039;t express the details. 

The league and its owners devised this second apron/punitive luxury tax system to break teams up partly so they could jack up their valuations and increase the potential expansion fee. 

They&#039;re the only ones who benefit from that. 

Guys like KAT &#038; Hart get screwed because everyone wants them to take less money to keep the team together (which is bullshit... your team is worth $12BN... you should shut up and pay the men who won you a chip).

We as fans get screwed because the teams we love are being broken up by design. 

Over time I suspect this will not be good for the league because team continuity has traditionally been something that drives viewership. Put more plainly: if this Knicks team only plays 1 more year together instead of 4 more years, I think there will be a lot fewer eyes on the Knicks.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> but about what people like hubert are implicitly complaining about when they point to players not getting their fair share of climbing franchise values. in a normal business</p></blockquote>
<p>Actually I see it a little differently, I just didn&#8217;t express the details. </p>
<p>The league and its owners devised this second apron/punitive luxury tax system to break teams up partly so they could jack up their valuations and increase the potential expansion fee. </p>
<p>They&#8217;re the only ones who benefit from that. </p>
<p>Guys like KAT &amp; Hart get screwed because everyone wants them to take less money to keep the team together (which is bullshit&#8230; your team is worth $12BN&#8230; you should shut up and pay the men who won you a chip).</p>
<p>We as fans get screwed because the teams we love are being broken up by design. </p>
<p>Over time I suspect this will not be good for the league because team continuity has traditionally been something that drives viewership. Put more plainly: if this Knicks team only plays 1 more year together instead of 4 more years, I think there will be a lot fewer eyes on the Knicks.</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2026 22:51:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[pt, thanks as always for your insights. It should also be noted that players can, and mostly do, profit from their association with the league via endorsements, appearances, etc. Superstars can profit to an enormous degree, often way more than their salary.  In that sense, my understanding is that star players do not get royalties on the sale of merch specific to them, e.g. sales of jerseys with their name on it. Maybe that&#039;s a place where the next CBA can compensate those players who sell the most jerseys, etc. outside of the BRI/salary cap calculation.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pt, thanks as always for your insights. It should also be noted that players can, and mostly do, profit from their association with the league via endorsements, appearances, etc. Superstars can profit to an enormous degree, often way more than their salary.  In that sense, my understanding is that star players do not get royalties on the sale of merch specific to them, e.g. sales of jerseys with their name on it. Maybe that&#8217;s a place where the next CBA can compensate those players who sell the most jerseys, etc. outside of the BRI/salary cap calculation.</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2026 22:25:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;That money earned by the association to advance the players and fans leaks out completely. Not insignificant and getting screwed by definition.&lt;/em&gt;

it&#039;s a little more complicated than this.  the bulk of expansion fees are about new owners paying for their share of the existing nba revenue stream they are effectively buying into.  the immediate effect of expanding to 32 teams is revenue and cash-flow dilutive to existing owners before expansion fees.  to the extent it works and the pie increases in the long run, you can think of that as shared between new and existing owners such that some tiny part of the expansion fee also reflects a split of that upside.  it&#039;s a very different for players.    

30 new players get added and so this is technically dilutive.  one obvious argument is that these new players are, in fact, &quot;players&quot; and thus players as a whole are not worse off and need no dilution compensation (you presumably don&#039;t want to force new players to pay existing players compensation).  and even from the perspective of existing players, it&#039;s not nearly as bad as it looks.  even with the minimum salary rules, the marginal salaries added to the league will likely bunch near the bottom of the salary scale both short-term and in equilibrium, leaving a very small effect on median player salaries.  the outcome for existing players tends to look more like adding a roster spot to every team than lopping 6% of existing player salaries.  median salaries will barely be hit and mean salaries will only be hit a fraction of the overall hit (with most of the 6% decline in average salary coming due to a higher quotient of low end players).  and if the pie does increase over time with more teams then even the modest amount of dilution per existing player might be offset with bri growth.         

the lurking complication isn&#039;t really about expansion per se, but about what people like hubert are implicitly complaining about when they point to players not getting their fair share of climbing franchise values.  in a normal business, the value of the franchise is roughly the present value of discount cash flows, so in the long run get a share of operating value (revenue, earnings) is theoretically isomorphic to getting an equivalent share of company value.  but sports are different, because people believe that nba teams produce a huge convenience yield to owners, i.e. people suddenly caring about what joe lacob thinks about ai or what mark cuban thinks about ethereum, and there is no obvious resaon why those fake aura enhancers shouldn&#039;t be considered economic rents that players can also share.  a counterargument to that is that players negotiate their deals and maybe they did consider it.  maybe they would have only gotten 35% of BRI without the extra trophy value.  so the lack of direct participation in asset value increases isn&#039;t itself dispositive.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>That money earned by the association to advance the players and fans leaks out completely. Not insignificant and getting screwed by definition.</em></p>
<p>it&#8217;s a little more complicated than this.  the bulk of expansion fees are about new owners paying for their share of the existing nba revenue stream they are effectively buying into.  the immediate effect of expanding to 32 teams is revenue and cash-flow dilutive to existing owners before expansion fees.  to the extent it works and the pie increases in the long run, you can think of that as shared between new and existing owners such that some tiny part of the expansion fee also reflects a split of that upside.  it&#8217;s a very different for players.    </p>
<p>30 new players get added and so this is technically dilutive.  one obvious argument is that these new players are, in fact, &#8220;players&#8221; and thus players as a whole are not worse off and need no dilution compensation (you presumably don&#8217;t want to force new players to pay existing players compensation).  and even from the perspective of existing players, it&#8217;s not nearly as bad as it looks.  even with the minimum salary rules, the marginal salaries added to the league will likely bunch near the bottom of the salary scale both short-term and in equilibrium, leaving a very small effect on median player salaries.  the outcome for existing players tends to look more like adding a roster spot to every team than lopping 6% of existing player salaries.  median salaries will barely be hit and mean salaries will only be hit a fraction of the overall hit (with most of the 6% decline in average salary coming due to a higher quotient of low end players).  and if the pie does increase over time with more teams then even the modest amount of dilution per existing player might be offset with bri growth.         </p>
<p>the lurking complication isn&#8217;t really about expansion per se, but about what people like hubert are implicitly complaining about when they point to players not getting their fair share of climbing franchise values.  in a normal business, the value of the franchise is roughly the present value of discount cash flows, so in the long run get a share of operating value (revenue, earnings) is theoretically isomorphic to getting an equivalent share of company value.  but sports are different, because people believe that nba teams produce a huge convenience yield to owners, i.e. people suddenly caring about what joe lacob thinks about ai or what mark cuban thinks about ethereum, and there is no obvious resaon why those fake aura enhancers shouldn&#8217;t be considered economic rents that players can also share.  a counterargument to that is that players negotiate their deals and maybe they did consider it.  maybe they would have only gotten 35% of BRI without the extra trophy value.  so the lack of direct participation in asset value increases isn&#8217;t itself dispositive.</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[This one is less beautiful but I did not realize Brunson had 10 steals in the finals: 

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This one is less beautiful but I did not realize Brunson had 10 steals in the finals: </p>
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