no regrets seeing thibs gone…was glad someone on the team found a voice for a counter thibs’ minutes narrative…our two team leaders (jalen and josh) were simply parroting most of the thibs’ minute nonsense…

Which poster are you referring to?

Yup. No question about it. Thibs viewed Hart as a star in his position (you know, that position that Spoelstra and Kerr referred to as “winner”).

“But Thibs didn’t play Brunson & Towns nearly as many minutes as Bridges and Hart.”

Hart played 2.1 more mpg than Brunson and 2.6 mpg more than KAT. But I guess to some, that’s “not nearly as many minutes.” (I assume you don’t mean total minutes, given that Brunson missed 17 games with injury.)

“it’s “beyond dispute” that Thibs thinks Mikal Bridges and Josh Hart were the stars of the Knicks, while Jalen Brunson and Karl-Anthony Towns were just a couple of nice supporting players.”

As someone who whines continuously about how he is often misquoted, misunderstood, or misrepresented, you should note that I neither defined “star” nor put a limit on how many stars could be on a team, nor said that the pecking order of how Thibs values players is based solely on minutes.

“So either Thibs is the worst judge of talent ever (RJ Barrett once played more minutes than any player not on the Knicks, too), or Thibs’ ridiculous minutes allocation is not indicative of who he thinks is a star.”

So why do you think Thibs played RJ so many minutes? (other than “he’s the best player for the role I want him to play which is critical to winning?) Is your quibble solely with the word “star?” Okay, pick another term/phrase to define the player a coach values highly enough to play him the most minutes.

“Recall he once stuck with Elf Payton well beyond the point it made sense because Payton was critical to the defense he wanted to play.”

Payton averaged 23.6 mpg for Thibs that season. Prior to the all-star break, he played 28mpg, largely because his competition at PG was Austin Rivers, Frank, rookie IQ, and DSjr. Then they traded for Derrick Rose, and his minutes dropped to 18mpg for the rest of the season. Then in the playoffs, he played 8 minutes and 5 minutes before being benched entirely. If that seems analagous to the esteem that Thibs held Mikal in, whatever.

Sometimes it’s not fun on the body,” Bridges said, per Stefan Bondy of the New York Post. “You’ll want that as a coach but also talked to him a little bit knowing that we’ve got a good enough team where our bench guys can come in and we don’t need to play 48 (minutes), 47.
“We’ve got a lot of good guys on this team that can take away minutes. Which helps the defense, helps the offense, helps tired bodies being out there and giving up all these points. It helps just keeping fresh bodies out there.

What a whiney little bitch.

jealous of them cool nyc temps…

Mikal played the most minutes in the league last year. He played 139 minutes more than the number two player….Josh Hart.

But yes, call him a whiner.

He literally whined about it.

suggesting that Thibs himself though of Mikal as a “star” who “produces.” That’s beyond dispute, the numbers don’t lie.

It’s extremely disputable because it’s some of the worst logic I’ve ever seen.

Thibs also played Josh more minutes than anyone else. He must think Josh is a star, too.

But Thibs didn’t play Brunson & Towns nearly as many minutes as Bridges and Hart. So by your “logic”, it’s “beyond dispute” that Thibs thinks Mikal Bridges and Josh Hart were the stars of the Knicks, while Jalen Brunson and Karl-Anthony Towns were just a couple of nice supporting players.

So either Thibs is the worst judge of talent ever (RJ Barrett once played more minutes than any player not on the Knicks, too), or Thibs’ ridiculous minutes allocation is not indicative of who he thinks is a star.

He sang in that same range as young Robert Plant and Rod Stewart, so you can see why Jimmy Page was interested in him. Great singer. Probably not quite as powerful as Plant in the upper range, but he was a great stylist and was a very soulful singer. They would have been a lot different for sure. Plant just had a larger than life sort of quality to him that Terry Reid didn’t have.

Anyway. RIP.