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		By: Stratomatic		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2025 04:46:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt; Can you find a comment that verifies that statement?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I’m not going to do an archive search, but I was a big Grimes fan and was very vocal about how much I hated that trade. It was one of the few moves Leon made I was strongly against other than passing on Haliburton. I was fine with Obi even though I liked him.  I was even fine with the Mikal trade even though I agreed with the consensus that we overpaid.  I was OK with the Towns trade also, but I feel less certain about the fit now because I think he’s more productive at C (always thought that).  I’m not sure it works with Brunson.  

A lot of time is spent here debating the same things over and over.  Some of it gets a little silly. When I say something, it often gets lost.  I may or may not ultimately be right,  but there’s often money on the line backing my opinion and I don’t part with money easily. <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f609.png" alt="😉" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> Can you find a comment that verifies that statement?</p></blockquote>
<p>I’m not going to do an archive search, but I was a big Grimes fan and was very vocal about how much I hated that trade. It was one of the few moves Leon made I was strongly against other than passing on Haliburton. I was fine with Obi even though I liked him.  I was even fine with the Mikal trade even though I agreed with the consensus that we overpaid.  I was OK with the Towns trade also, but I feel less certain about the fit now because I think he’s more productive at C (always thought that).  I’m not sure it works with Brunson.  </p>
<p>A lot of time is spent here debating the same things over and over.  Some of it gets a little silly. When I say something, it often gets lost.  I may or may not ultimately be right,  but there’s often money on the line backing my opinion and I don’t part with money easily. 😉</p>
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		By: Stratomatic		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2025 04:35:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[IMO Leon has had a plan in mind for what qualities he wants at each position.  He identifies the 1-2 players in the NBA he thinks have those qualities that could eventually become available. But he knows it’s so hard to get exactly what you want, when one potentially becomes available, you are either going to get into a bidding war or have to pay a premium.  

He wanted OG and paid a significant price. 

He wanted Bridges and paid a significant price.  

He wanted Towns and was being patient, but when we lost I-Hart it sort of forced his hand to include DDV or sacrifice the season with Simms at C. 

We can argue all day about whether OG, Bridges and Towns are the right pieces at the right price, but he paid up because he thinks they are.  It’s not because he was impatient, foolish or anything else. He wanted two switchable defensive wings (to deal with Boston) and a floor spacing player to replace Randle. 

That’s why I’ve brought up Jaren Jackson Jr so many times.  I feel certain that’s who he wants at PF just like I was pining for OG and Bridges. It may be impossible to get him at this point, but he may have another player in mind.  I don’t think he’s done.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IMO Leon has had a plan in mind for what qualities he wants at each position.  He identifies the 1-2 players in the NBA he thinks have those qualities that could eventually become available. But he knows it’s so hard to get exactly what you want, when one potentially becomes available, you are either going to get into a bidding war or have to pay a premium.  </p>
<p>He wanted OG and paid a significant price. </p>
<p>He wanted Bridges and paid a significant price.  </p>
<p>He wanted Towns and was being patient, but when we lost I-Hart it sort of forced his hand to include DDV or sacrifice the season with Simms at C. </p>
<p>We can argue all day about whether OG, Bridges and Towns are the right pieces at the right price, but he paid up because he thinks they are.  It’s not because he was impatient, foolish or anything else. He wanted two switchable defensive wings (to deal with Boston) and a floor spacing player to replace Randle. </p>
<p>That’s why I’ve brought up Jaren Jackson Jr so many times.  I feel certain that’s who he wants at PF just like I was pining for OG and Bridges. It may be impossible to get him at this point, but he may have another player in mind.  I don’t think he’s done.</p>
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		By: BigBlueAL		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2025 04:27:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Grimes has been traded by 2 more teams since the Knicks traded him.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grimes has been traded by 2 more teams since the Knicks traded him.</p>
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		By: rama, lord of the loge		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2025 04:13:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;No one was more against the Grimes trade than me. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Can you find a comment that verifies that statement? Ben R was very much, very clearly the most negative and vocal about it. I didn&#039;t like it, said it had only a narrow chance of working out and was short-sighted. (I&#039;ve also been higher on Q than almost everyone else, to a fault). I don&#039;t remember you saying anything one way or another until this year. I remember it being Ben and then me some distance behind him, and that was it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>No one was more against the Grimes trade than me. </p></blockquote>
<p>Can you find a comment that verifies that statement? Ben R was very much, very clearly the most negative and vocal about it. I didn&#8217;t like it, said it had only a narrow chance of working out and was short-sighted. (I&#8217;ve also been higher on Q than almost everyone else, to a fault). I don&#8217;t remember you saying anything one way or another until this year. I remember it being Ben and then me some distance behind him, and that was it.</p>
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		By: rama, lord of the loge		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2025 04:10:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;PS: I didn’t see anything reliable to verify that Ty’s agent did this…only an AI-generated report. Can anyone verify, please?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That would be rich if it weren&#039;t true]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>PS: I didn’t see anything reliable to verify that Ty’s agent did this…only an AI-generated report. Can anyone verify, please?</p></blockquote>
<p>That would be rich if it weren&#8217;t true</p>
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		By: Stratomatic		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2025 04:08:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt; And look, mea culpa, I liked the Grimes trade, mainly because of how positively it was viewed by most pundits. Kudos to rama and Ben R for being pretty spot-on in their analysis.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

No one was more against the Grimes trade than me.  I hated it and said so quite a few times.  To be honest though, I don’t think we actually wanted to trade him.  I think he wanted to play and get paid but he lost his spot here and was having knee issues.  Now he’s healthy and heading into his peak.  He’s going to get paid, but I’m not so sure I’d give him as much as he wants. 

 There are too many “ifs” to figure out what would have happened if we didn’t trade him. In any event, that trade was one of Leon’s bad ones.  He sold at the bottom.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> And look, mea culpa, I liked the Grimes trade, mainly because of how positively it was viewed by most pundits. Kudos to rama and Ben R for being pretty spot-on in their analysis.</p></blockquote>
<p>No one was more against the Grimes trade than me.  I hated it and said so quite a few times.  To be honest though, I don’t think we actually wanted to trade him.  I think he wanted to play and get paid but he lost his spot here and was having knee issues.  Now he’s healthy and heading into his peak.  He’s going to get paid, but I’m not so sure I’d give him as much as he wants. </p>
<p> There are too many “ifs” to figure out what would have happened if we didn’t trade him. In any event, that trade was one of Leon’s bad ones.  He sold at the bottom.</p>
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		By: Donnie Walsh		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2025 04:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Knicks became relevant again under Leon Rose, so I think he has done a phenomenal job. Obviously, if he hadn’t made any mistakes, they’d be even better, but that is unrealistic and silly to nitpick over. I think that comparing Rose to Pritchard or anybody else is a pointless exercise because you can’t control for the unknown variables, which are likely very many. Armchair GMs with their homemade models don’t have to deal with owners, agents, players, player’s wives, player’s entourages, office politics, media politics, etc… it’s most likely plums to tangerines comparing any two front offices, and as much as the analytics crowd tries to divorce the job from human error, the human element will always be the most difficult the aspect of the job for a president to navigate.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Knicks became relevant again under Leon Rose, so I think he has done a phenomenal job. Obviously, if he hadn’t made any mistakes, they’d be even better, but that is unrealistic and silly to nitpick over. I think that comparing Rose to Pritchard or anybody else is a pointless exercise because you can’t control for the unknown variables, which are likely very many. Armchair GMs with their homemade models don’t have to deal with owners, agents, players, player’s wives, player’s entourages, office politics, media politics, etc… it’s most likely plums to tangerines comparing any two front offices, and as much as the analytics crowd tries to divorce the job from human error, the human element will always be the most difficult the aspect of the job for a president to navigate.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2025 03:41:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[PS: I didn&#039;t see anything reliable to verify that Ty&#039;s agent did this...only an AI-generated report. Can anyone verify, please?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS: I didn&#8217;t see anything reliable to verify that Ty&#8217;s agent did this&#8230;only an AI-generated report. Can anyone verify, please?</p>
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		By: Knick fan not in NJ		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2025 03:23:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I know that if we’re a GM and heard that story I would treat the agent who lied considerably differently in the future.  I wouldn’t trust anything he or she said snd if there was any discussion of possible future deals I wouldn’t do it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know that if we’re a GM and heard that story I would treat the agent who lied considerably differently in the future.  I wouldn’t trust anything he or she said snd if there was any discussion of possible future deals I wouldn’t do it.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2025 03:22:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt; That’s exactly what I’m talking about, now apparently Rose always meets the other team’s asking price when its so obvious he could’ve gotten the players he wanted with a much lesser offer…&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Well we have an actual report about what Leon wanted to give up for KAT vs Minnesota’s price, and it got done at Minnesota’s price.

And I suppose it’s possible Brooklyn wanted 11 first round picks for Mikal Bridges but I feel pretty comfortable saying Leon paid Brooklyn’s price.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> That’s exactly what I’m talking about, now apparently Rose always meets the other team’s asking price when its so obvious he could’ve gotten the players he wanted with a much lesser offer…</p></blockquote>
<p>Well we have an actual report about what Leon wanted to give up for KAT vs Minnesota’s price, and it got done at Minnesota’s price.</p>
<p>And I suppose it’s possible Brooklyn wanted 11 first round picks for Mikal Bridges but I feel pretty comfortable saying Leon paid Brooklyn’s price.</p>
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