The running game was almost non-existent in Eli’s final years thanks to the weaker o-line and the defense except for 2016 was garbage but Eli arguably had his best seasons during that stretch.

I don’t think football is going away. Some people love to play it and I don’t think it’s just the running around. They like the physicality if it.

This. Football is legalized mayhem with a huge team component. It is one of the most fun things to do. If one guy out of the 11 misses his assignment by a half second, the play is blown up. The physicality is a feature, not a glitch.

Nabers would have a field day if Eli was his QB just like his fellow LSU alumn ODB had playing with Eli, unfortunately Daniel Jones is more Dave Brown than Eli Manning.

No one holds Eli higher than me due to his enormous ability to play with complete equanimity in the clutch, but even he had losing records in 5 of his last 6 seasons after Snee, Seuibert and Deihl retired due to injury and the OL was never adequately addressed for the last decade.

Jones has PTSD after being beaten to a pulp in the past 5 seasons. His career has been ruined by mismanagement of the OL which sucked today. Minn rushed 4 or 5 most of the day and Jones as sacked 5 times and under the gun on 70% of his drop backs. The one thing he could always do well was deliver the ball and today he was throwing behind everyone with poor footwork in the pocket.

Nabers would have a field day if Eli was his QB just like his fellow LSU alumn ODB had playing with Eli, unfortunately Daniel Jones is more Dave Brown than Eli Manning.

I was thinking on this some today Bob, you know – what if the boys wanted to play organized football, instead of basketball…

I don’t get the whole idea of Pop Warner football. Kids that young don’t need that sort of contact and size differences.

My son playred all the sports , but loved ice hockey and played high school hockey for the biggest program in Minnesota and was a line mate of Blake Wheeler who had a big career in the NHL. He got smacked around a bit but never seriously injured (torn labrum) til he played college rugby at Middlebury College in VT.

Hockey isn’t quite football, but it is pretty violent.He would tell you, and I agree, the discipline and priority of working to excel within a group where everyone is accountable, taught him far more valuable life lessons that were commensurate with the risk.