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		By: BrunsonPeroneusLongus		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;The history of teams actually regretting dumping young stars once they decide to dump them is very small. NBA teams make dumb decisions all of the time, they tend not to dump young stars who are under team control. It’s a major red flag.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I think Mr. Porzingis was dumped twice by two different teams incorrectly and Boston is quite thrilled Dallas and the Wizzards did so. i&#039;m sure there are many more examples if one thinks about it. It is the nature of the beast. Talent isn&#039;t the only marker here. That is why they put erasers on the ends of pencils.... people make mistakes all the time.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The history of teams actually regretting dumping young stars once they decide to dump them is very small. NBA teams make dumb decisions all of the time, they tend not to dump young stars who are under team control. It’s a major red flag.</p></blockquote>
<p>I think Mr. Porzingis was dumped twice by two different teams incorrectly and Boston is quite thrilled Dallas and the Wizzards did so. i&#8217;m sure there are many more examples if one thinks about it. It is the nature of the beast. Talent isn&#8217;t the only marker here. That is why they put erasers on the ends of pencils&#8230;. people make mistakes all the time.</p>
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		By: walkerandbendercornerstones		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Jun 2024 12:20:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[lol if Dallas “dumped” Brunson then why did Cuban file a tampering complaint with the league against us?

Cuban got cute and didn’t lock Brunson up for cheap when he could. Hardly dumping.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol if Dallas “dumped” Brunson then why did Cuban file a tampering complaint with the league against us?</p>
<p>Cuban got cute and didn’t lock Brunson up for cheap when he could. Hardly dumping.</p>
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		By: Z-man		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Jun 2024 05:48:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A post-trade starting lineup of...
iHart
OG
Randle
Ingram
Brunson
...would be a handful.

I would assume that DDV and Hart were on the bench. Plus Alvarado, if he&#039;s part of the deal.

Is Deuce still here? Precious? Burks? 

A bench unit of Alvarado, DDV, Hart, Ingram, and a decent backup C would be pretty damn good. You could mix and match the other starters in so that everyone gets good minutes and consistent rest. 

It&#039;s not the worst plan in the world.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A post-trade starting lineup of&#8230;<br />
iHart<br />
OG<br />
Randle<br />
Ingram<br />
Brunson<br />
&#8230;would be a handful.</p>
<p>I would assume that DDV and Hart were on the bench. Plus Alvarado, if he&#8217;s part of the deal.</p>
<p>Is Deuce still here? Precious? Burks? </p>
<p>A bench unit of Alvarado, DDV, Hart, Ingram, and a decent backup C would be pretty damn good. You could mix and match the other starters in so that everyone gets good minutes and consistent rest. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s not the worst plan in the world.</p>
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		By: Knick fan not in NJ		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Jun 2024 05:40:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Pelicans have two forwards each making $36M, Williamson and Ingram. It makes sense they would rather have two good players who are less redundant. I’m not sure their possibility of trading him should be thought of as dumping him.   But that makes me wonder at the proposed deal.  Getting Mitch and Bojan in return doesn’t seem to be enough for them if they want usable players who fit well with Zion and not draft picks.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Pelicans have two forwards each making $36M, Williamson and Ingram. It makes sense they would rather have two good players who are less redundant. I’m not sure their possibility of trading him should be thought of as dumping him.   But that makes me wonder at the proposed deal.  Getting Mitch and Bojan in return doesn’t seem to be enough for them if they want usable players who fit well with Zion and not draft picks.</p>
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		By: Z-man		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Jun 2024 05:33:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s an interesting premise, Brian. And one that is consistent with my gut feeling. On one hand, there&#039;s something about Ingram that doesn&#039;t feel right. On the other, the Pels are kind of a mess and maybe it&#039;s about his role being to big and what it would take to keep him. 

And that&#039;s the rub. If you are considering Ingram just to be an offensive version of OG, meaning a third option on offense that can give extreme length at the 2, plus shot creation and scoring both on and off the ball, especially with the second unit, there&#039;s far less risk than what the Pels would be taking by extending him.  But there&#039;s definitely some risk. 

In any case, I just don&#039;t see it happening. But it&#039;s worth a long, hard look.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s an interesting premise, Brian. And one that is consistent with my gut feeling. On one hand, there&#8217;s something about Ingram that doesn&#8217;t feel right. On the other, the Pels are kind of a mess and maybe it&#8217;s about his role being to big and what it would take to keep him. </p>
<p>And that&#8217;s the rub. If you are considering Ingram just to be an offensive version of OG, meaning a third option on offense that can give extreme length at the 2, plus shot creation and scoring both on and off the ball, especially with the second unit, there&#8217;s far less risk than what the Pels would be taking by extending him.  But there&#8217;s definitely some risk. </p>
<p>In any case, I just don&#8217;t see it happening. But it&#8217;s worth a long, hard look.</p>
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		By: Bruno Almeida		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Jun 2024 05:32:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[And frankly, if they do want to dump Ingram for Bojan + Mitch and nothing else meaningful, then I&#039;d gladly take him off their hands because it would be a very low cost flyer to take.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And frankly, if they do want to dump Ingram for Bojan + Mitch and nothing else meaningful, then I&#8217;d gladly take him off their hands because it would be a very low cost flyer to take.</p>
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		By: Bruno Almeida		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Jun 2024 05:26:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[That sounds precisely like dumping to me, but outside of a semantics argument, why are we convinced the Pelicans are willing to dump Ingram anyway? Dumping for me means getting rid of someone for a low return or no return at all, what the Bulls are reported to be willing to do with Lavine now for example.

The other report we&#039;ve gotten about the Pelicans is that they want to negotiate with Atlanta for either Murray or Trae, which doesn&#039;t sound like a dump at all, more like a sideways move with the idea that these guys fit better with Zion on a roster than Ingram does. For all we know there&#039;s no way the Pelicans will simply trade him for Bojan + Mitch plus whatever crap we can throw together unless there&#039;s a ton of picks involved they can reroute somewhere else for someone they think fits Zion better. That still wouldn&#039;t mean they&#039;re dumping Ingram, it would mean they think Zion + Ingram doesn&#039;t work, which is a very different situation.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That sounds precisely like dumping to me, but outside of a semantics argument, why are we convinced the Pelicans are willing to dump Ingram anyway? Dumping for me means getting rid of someone for a low return or no return at all, what the Bulls are reported to be willing to do with Lavine now for example.</p>
<p>The other report we&#8217;ve gotten about the Pelicans is that they want to negotiate with Atlanta for either Murray or Trae, which doesn&#8217;t sound like a dump at all, more like a sideways move with the idea that these guys fit better with Zion on a roster than Ingram does. For all we know there&#8217;s no way the Pelicans will simply trade him for Bojan + Mitch plus whatever crap we can throw together unless there&#8217;s a ton of picks involved they can reroute somewhere else for someone they think fits Zion better. That still wouldn&#8217;t mean they&#8217;re dumping Ingram, it would mean they think Zion + Ingram doesn&#8217;t work, which is a very different situation.</p>
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		By: Brian Cronin		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Jun 2024 04:34:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;I get the argument, but our superstar was dumped by a team unwilling to pay him 55 million over 4 years, so…&lt;/blockquote&gt;Dallas definitely did not dump Brunson. They wanted him, they just wanted to also keep their options open in terms of possibly packaging him with picks to get a star player. It was a &lt;em&gt;terrible&lt;/em&gt; decision by them, but it wasn&#039;t them dumping him. They fully believed that they would be able to re-sign him if they didn&#039;t trade him. 

The history of teams actually regretting dumping young stars once they decide to dump them is very small. NBA teams make dumb decisions all of the time, they tend not to dump young stars who are under team control. It&#039;s a major red flag.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I get the argument, but our superstar was dumped by a team unwilling to pay him 55 million over 4 years, so…</p></blockquote>
<p>Dallas definitely did not dump Brunson. They wanted him, they just wanted to also keep their options open in terms of possibly packaging him with picks to get a star player. It was a <em>terrible</em> decision by them, but it wasn&#8217;t them dumping him. They fully believed that they would be able to re-sign him if they didn&#8217;t trade him. </p>
<p>The history of teams actually regretting dumping young stars once they decide to dump them is very small. NBA teams make dumb decisions all of the time, they tend not to dump young stars who are under team control. It&#8217;s a major red flag.</p>
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		By: BrunsonPeroneusLongus		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Jun 2024 04:11:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;When teams are willing to dump their 26-year-old former All-Star, I don’t think you should want a piece of that.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I am agnostic on this as I don&#039;t know the player well enough, but he was a one time all star 4 seasons ago, not a perennial all star. He is looking at a substantial extension. 

NO had the 27th attendance with the 10th highest payroll, that can&#039;t be a good fiscal deal for them. Jonas Valanciunas is unrestricted and cost controlled Mitch probably looks good to them.

This is what front office people get paid to evaluate.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>When teams are willing to dump their 26-year-old former All-Star, I don’t think you should want a piece of that.</p></blockquote>
<p>I am agnostic on this as I don&#8217;t know the player well enough, but he was a one time all star 4 seasons ago, not a perennial all star. He is looking at a substantial extension. </p>
<p>NO had the 27th attendance with the 10th highest payroll, that can&#8217;t be a good fiscal deal for them. Jonas Valanciunas is unrestricted and cost controlled Mitch probably looks good to them.</p>
<p>This is what front office people get paid to evaluate.</p>
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		By: Bruno Almeida		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[I get the argument, but our superstar was dumped by a team unwilling to pay him 55 million over 4 years, so... 

Front offices can be stupid very often, and it&#039;s not like the Pelicans are an example of great management in the first place.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I get the argument, but our superstar was dumped by a team unwilling to pay him 55 million over 4 years, so&#8230; </p>
<p>Front offices can be stupid very often, and it&#8217;s not like the Pelicans are an example of great management in the first place.</p>
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