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		By: pagliacci		</title>
		<link>https://knickerblogger.net/2023/12/knicks-morning-news-2023-12-08/#comment-873325</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Dec 2023 00:38:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Who is the guy worth tanking for a 14% chance at this year?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

We don&#039;t know that ahead of time, no more than we knew Tyrese Haliburton or Steph Curry were worth tanking for a 14% chance at a few years back.

What we do know is that the chances of finding generational superstars go up dramatically at the highest draft slots, and this is the only way to get those people on value contracts.  By giving ourselves multiple bites at the apple we are fairly likely to get one or more lucky outcomes.  

It&#039;s uncertain, but the payoff for this is absolutely astronomical and can set a team up for decades.  Our #3 pick a few years back was RJ, an absolute bust.  Just one year prior it was Doncic, who is already a top 5 player.  If we had just given ourselves more good chances, we&#039;d likely have players like Hali and Doncic instead of RJ and the bag of chips we got for Obi Toppin.  

This really isn&#039;t hard to understand, and arguments against it tend to rely on the kind of sophistry and willful blindness evident in your retort.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Who is the guy worth tanking for a 14% chance at this year?</p></blockquote>
<p>We don&#8217;t know that ahead of time, no more than we knew Tyrese Haliburton or Steph Curry were worth tanking for a 14% chance at a few years back.</p>
<p>What we do know is that the chances of finding generational superstars go up dramatically at the highest draft slots, and this is the only way to get those people on value contracts.  By giving ourselves multiple bites at the apple we are fairly likely to get one or more lucky outcomes.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s uncertain, but the payoff for this is absolutely astronomical and can set a team up for decades.  Our #3 pick a few years back was RJ, an absolute bust.  Just one year prior it was Doncic, who is already a top 5 player.  If we had just given ourselves more good chances, we&#8217;d likely have players like Hali and Doncic instead of RJ and the bag of chips we got for Obi Toppin.  </p>
<p>This really isn&#8217;t hard to understand, and arguments against it tend to rely on the kind of sophistry and willful blindness evident in your retort.</p>
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		By: Knick fan not in NJ		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Knick fan not in NJ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Dec 2023 00:04:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;It has always felt that Dolan only really cares about the zillions of dollars falling into his pockets, along with not being embarrassed.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;Dolan wants playoff gates for his public shareholders.

Thibs wants a roster of guys who he likes to work with, whose styles and personalities he favors, who won’t cause him any headaches or angina in his advancing years, and who will win enough to give Dolan playoff gates and keep the paychecks coming.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I don’t believe Dolan doesn’t care about winning.  He does come to some games and when the TV shows him there he looks focused on the game in a way that makes it clear he’s a fan.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It has always felt that Dolan only really cares about the zillions of dollars falling into his pockets, along with not being embarrassed.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>Dolan wants playoff gates for his public shareholders.</p>
<p>Thibs wants a roster of guys who he likes to work with, whose styles and personalities he favors, who won’t cause him any headaches or angina in his advancing years, and who will win enough to give Dolan playoff gates and keep the paychecks coming.</p></blockquote>
<p>I don’t believe Dolan doesn’t care about winning.  He does come to some games and when the TV shows him there he looks focused on the game in a way that makes it clear he’s a fan.</p>
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		By: Max		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2023 23:58:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t know and eagerly defer to our in-house experts...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know and eagerly defer to our in-house experts&#8230;</p>
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		By: gkhenman		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2023 23:54:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Who is the guy worth tanking for a 14% chance at this year?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who is the guy worth tanking for a 14% chance at this year?</p>
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		By: pagliacci		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2023 23:47:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;The league did a great job to discourage tanking, yessir…&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Ironically, tanking may be an even better strategy now than before the flattening of the odds, simply by creating a perception among some that tanking is less valuable.  This leads to fewer teams tanking, which raises the effectiveness of tanking for the teams that still pursue it.

One universal truth will never change:  the distribution of basketball player value is extremely top-heavy and the best way to get a bargain on super-elite talent is via the draft.  Without the draft such talent is not just extremely expensive, but often unavailable at any price.

It follows that tanking will always be optimal as long as it gives a substantial advantage in getting the most valuable assets in the game, and there is no question it still does.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The league did a great job to discourage tanking, yessir…</p></blockquote>
<p>Ironically, tanking may be an even better strategy now than before the flattening of the odds, simply by creating a perception among some that tanking is less valuable.  This leads to fewer teams tanking, which raises the effectiveness of tanking for the teams that still pursue it.</p>
<p>One universal truth will never change:  the distribution of basketball player value is extremely top-heavy and the best way to get a bargain on super-elite talent is via the draft.  Without the draft such talent is not just extremely expensive, but often unavailable at any price.</p>
<p>It follows that tanking will always be optimal as long as it gives a substantial advantage in getting the most valuable assets in the game, and there is no question it still does.</p>
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		By: Max		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2023 23:45:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Spurs are deliberately avoiding to play Wemby with Tre Jones because their +/- together is too good (the Hoops Collective Podcast did a nice job mocking them for this) :-) 
They&#039;re young, they correctly think that Wemby alone is not enough, better take another top-3 bite at the apple, and Pop executes it perfectly.

And, with this rules, they&#039;re right!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Spurs are deliberately avoiding to play Wemby with Tre Jones because their +/- together is too good (the Hoops Collective Podcast did a nice job mocking them for this) 🙂<br />
They&#8217;re young, they correctly think that Wemby alone is not enough, better take another top-3 bite at the apple, and Pop executes it perfectly.</p>
<p>And, with this rules, they&#8217;re right!</p>
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		By: Max		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2023 23:40:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Between Donte&#039;s swagger, his ability to move and cut and JB guaranteeing his Nova pal hs fair share, my O/U for DDV&#039;s shots in the 1st quarter is 3.5 and he could be low...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Between Donte&#8217;s swagger, his ability to move and cut and JB guaranteeing his Nova pal hs fair share, my O/U for DDV&#8217;s shots in the 1st quarter is 3.5 and he could be low&#8230;</p>
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		By: DRed		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2023 23:39:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Max the Pistons are trying to win, at least.  The Spurs are really young and the Wizards are tanking the shit out of the season.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Max the Pistons are trying to win, at least.  The Spurs are really young and the Wizards are tanking the shit out of the season.</p>
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		By: DRed		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2023 23:38:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Nice to see the change although I feel bad for Quentin.  Hopefully he&#039;ll get a chance to do more with the second unit and that will help him get his mojo back]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice to see the change although I feel bad for Quentin.  Hopefully he&#8217;ll get a chance to do more with the second unit and that will help him get his mojo back</p>
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		By: ess-dog		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2023 23:28:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Just came here to say that, Max.

Hooo boy…]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just came here to say that, Max.</p>
<p>Hooo boy…</p>
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