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		By: TNFH		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[They definitely need to do something about the reward for success being a tougher schedule. There are plenty of options in that regard that should be easy enough.

Besides that though, I think it&#039;s been a real success so far. You have to remember that to casual fans the pre-Christmas NBA is basically spring training. The IST has already managed to provide some extra intrigue and we haven&#039;t even hit the knockout stage yet.

I mean, anything that makes players take the regular season more seriously is good. I had no problem with guys trying to win by 30 instead of 25 last night--the NBA should strive to put on a good product for 48 minutes a night. This is why I also support a complete decoupling of record and draft position. We should have a system that incentivizes as much high-quality basketball as possible.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They definitely need to do something about the reward for success being a tougher schedule. There are plenty of options in that regard that should be easy enough.</p>
<p>Besides that though, I think it&#8217;s been a real success so far. You have to remember that to casual fans the pre-Christmas NBA is basically spring training. The IST has already managed to provide some extra intrigue and we haven&#8217;t even hit the knockout stage yet.</p>
<p>I mean, anything that makes players take the regular season more seriously is good. I had no problem with guys trying to win by 30 instead of 25 last night&#8211;the NBA should strive to put on a good product for 48 minutes a night. This is why I also support a complete decoupling of record and draft position. We should have a system that incentivizes as much high-quality basketball as possible.</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2023 17:25:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt; I read in Soap Opera Digest rumors that Hubert finally has his shit together.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Lies!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> I read in Soap Opera Digest rumors that Hubert finally has his shit together.</p></blockquote>
<p>Lies!</p>
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		By: Owen		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2023 17:20:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Posted a new thread to save on the thumbs...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Posted a new thread to save on the thumbs&#8230;</p>
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		By: JK47		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JK47]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2023 17:16:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yeah I&#039;m kind of immune to the charms of the IST. It&#039;s fine, I&#039;m not gonna be too much of a curmudgeon about it, but I don&#039;t find these games any more exciting at all, and I agree with those here who are correctly observing that these games could have negative seeding implications and also bring increased injury risk. 

I guess they&#039;re doing this every year from now on? Meh.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah I&#8217;m kind of immune to the charms of the IST. It&#8217;s fine, I&#8217;m not gonna be too much of a curmudgeon about it, but I don&#8217;t find these games any more exciting at all, and I agree with those here who are correctly observing that these games could have negative seeding implications and also bring increased injury risk. </p>
<p>I guess they&#8217;re doing this every year from now on? Meh.</p>
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		By: walkerandbendercornerstones		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[walkerandbendercornerstones]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2023 17:14:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The winner of the IST gets to pick one quarter during the playoffs in any series (just one) where every 2 point basket is worth 3 and every 3 point basket is worth 4. They also get one extra foul shot when they&#039;re fouled for that quarter.

Or the winner gets to pick one quarter in the playoffs where they can choose one player on the floor for the opposing team who has to wear an eye patch over one eye while they play. If the coach subs out that player, they can pick another player who now has to wear the eye patch.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The winner of the IST gets to pick one quarter during the playoffs in any series (just one) where every 2 point basket is worth 3 and every 3 point basket is worth 4. They also get one extra foul shot when they&#8217;re fouled for that quarter.</p>
<p>Or the winner gets to pick one quarter in the playoffs where they can choose one player on the floor for the opposing team who has to wear an eye patch over one eye while they play. If the coach subs out that player, they can pick another player who now has to wear the eye patch.</p>
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		By: DRed		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2023 17:06:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Bucks are obviously good and have Giannis &#038; Dame, but they also can&#039;t play defense.  It&#039;s one game, a little shooting luck and we can win.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Bucks are obviously good and have Giannis &amp; Dame, but they also can&#8217;t play defense.  It&#8217;s one game, a little shooting luck and we can win.</p>
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		By: Donnie Walsh		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Donnie Walsh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2023 17:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt; Please do tell. I don’t read any of the other stuff so I’ll never find out on my own.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Well, in the AP review of Alan’s book yesterday, they discussed the merits of the hybrid approach as it pertained to killing off Marisa, a member of the Core Four. Apparently there was a lot of internal debate about whether the producers could get replacement value for her via the draft.

Also, I read in Soap Opera Digest rumors that Hubert finally has his shit together.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> Please do tell. I don’t read any of the other stuff so I’ll never find out on my own.</p></blockquote>
<p>Well, in the AP review of Alan’s book yesterday, they discussed the merits of the hybrid approach as it pertained to killing off Marisa, a member of the Core Four. Apparently there was a lot of internal debate about whether the producers could get replacement value for her via the draft.</p>
<p>Also, I read in Soap Opera Digest rumors that Hubert finally has his shit together.</p>
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		By: Reese Bobby, but only a little bit		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2023 16:49:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Makes the scheduling tougher most likely, but they should also seed the field and do a televised draw for the groups sometime in maybe September.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Makes the scheduling tougher most likely, but they should also seed the field and do a televised draw for the groups sometime in maybe September.</p>
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		By: Reese Bobby, but only a little bit		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Reese Bobby, but only a little bit]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2023 16:45:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Please do tell.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Material on here shows up in the papers/websites, in essentially unchanged form.  I&#039;ve seen it at least three times.

&lt;blockquote&gt;It’s not fair.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The absolute bare minimum that should be done is that a KO round qualifier automatically wins any seeding tiebreaker against a non-KO round follower.  So the Knicks should automatically win a tie-breaker against the Magic, full stop no questions asked.

Frankly, the Knicks should win tiebreakers even if the Magic finish a game ahead, i.e., the Knicks should get a &quot;free win,&quot; so if they finish 47-35 and the Magic finish 48-34, the Knicks get a better seed.  Would add even additional incentive for the Cup tourney.

Unlikely to happen, but it should.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Please do tell.</p></blockquote>
<p>Material on here shows up in the papers/websites, in essentially unchanged form.  I&#8217;ve seen it at least three times.</p>
<blockquote><p>It’s not fair.</p></blockquote>
<p>The absolute bare minimum that should be done is that a KO round qualifier automatically wins any seeding tiebreaker against a non-KO round follower.  So the Knicks should automatically win a tie-breaker against the Magic, full stop no questions asked.</p>
<p>Frankly, the Knicks should win tiebreakers even if the Magic finish a game ahead, i.e., the Knicks should get a &#8220;free win,&#8221; so if they finish 47-35 and the Magic finish 48-34, the Knicks get a better seed.  Would add even additional incentive for the Cup tourney.</p>
<p>Unlikely to happen, but it should.</p>
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		By: Max		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2023 16:41:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m against the IST from the start of the conversation about it years ago (fuck Bill Simmons and Zach Lowe).

But, just like I&#039;ve made peace with other basketball things (often Knicks related), I&#039;ve accepted that it&#039;s not going anywhere, the way the League and media are pumping it shows the Silver Cup is here to stay. 

My only gripe now is that if you want to do it at all cost, at least do it in the best possible way, and instead the &quot;1 game for 2 competitions&quot; concept is bad enough for me to hate it to death, and &quot;be rewarded playing stronger teams in RS games&quot; is just as stupid.

I understand Ptmilo&#039;s envy for who enjoys the Cup, because I just can&#039;t.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m against the IST from the start of the conversation about it years ago (fuck Bill Simmons and Zach Lowe).</p>
<p>But, just like I&#8217;ve made peace with other basketball things (often Knicks related), I&#8217;ve accepted that it&#8217;s not going anywhere, the way the League and media are pumping it shows the Silver Cup is here to stay. </p>
<p>My only gripe now is that if you want to do it at all cost, at least do it in the best possible way, and instead the &#8220;1 game for 2 competitions&#8221; concept is bad enough for me to hate it to death, and &#8220;be rewarded playing stronger teams in RS games&#8221; is just as stupid.</p>
<p>I understand Ptmilo&#8217;s envy for who enjoys the Cup, because I just can&#8217;t.</p>
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