Comments on: Knicks Morning News (2023.10.23)

By: cybersoze

cybersoze — Tue, 24 Oct 2023 11:15:09 +0000

Randle looked great on The Tonight Show with Jimmy Fallon. I think he’s getting more and more comfortable in his role here, i’m hoping he can improve from last season.

By: Hubert IV

Hubert IV — Tue, 24 Oct 2023 10:57:58 +0000

I know this isn’t baseballblogger but it seems like every time I look at a postseason box score Jordan Montgomery has won another game. Last night he pulled the Randy Johnson coming out of the pen on 2 days rest.

I might not be Leon’s biggest fan but I like him hella more than Brian fucking Cashman, I’ll tell you that.

By: cybersoze

cybersoze — Tue, 24 Oct 2023 10:52:14 +0000

And there’s also the poison pill, as i said before if Leon wants to keep his options open to trade for a star during this season, it was better to not extend Quick. Next summer the cap rises a little, we opt out of Fournier’s last season (19M), and Quick was making 4.1M, just with this 3 things we can match 24M or 25M and the cap situation won’t change. Unless some crazy team offers him 30M+, we’ll have options to deal with this. I just hope this doesn’t change Quick’s behavior during the season.

By: cybersoze

cybersoze — Tue, 24 Oct 2023 10:43:22 +0000

Unless someone leaks the numbers, we can’t know what happened. Let’s say Quick’s agent saw McDaniels contract (26M AAV) and said to Quick that he should get more. Which he can think he should, because he’s better than McDaniels. Or at least he’s not worse than him. So, would any of you pay 26M AAV to Quick making him one of the highest paid players of the Knicks on par with Brunson and Randle?

By: Knick fan not in NJ

Knick fan not in NJ — Tue, 24 Oct 2023 07:21:05 +0000

Quickley is 6’2” and Grimes is 6’5”. I like Quckley’s activity on defense a lot but I think he usually defends the opponents smaller players. If he was the two guard, he’d have to defend larger players and I’m not sure he’d be as good as he needs to be. So even though he probably could do the scoring a shooting guard needs to do, I’m not sure he could do the defense. And he actually does do the point guard function, and almost made sixth man of the year, so he’s pretty good at it.

By: geo

geo — Tue, 24 Oct 2023 06:03:25 +0000

I don’t look at defensive rating at all.

…what I see on the court. I can’t convert that into a number with fancy math.

It’s more of a subjective appraisal.

But I’m pretty confident Quickley is a much better defender than Mitchell.

this is soooooo much me after a few drinks…

if donovan comes to the knicks, let’s hope it’s as a free agent…

By: geo

geo — Tue, 24 Oct 2023 05:43:12 +0000

any info on the deal the FO put forth to quik…

if he passed up more than 60 million guaranteed (20 aav) – wow, bad choice…go talk to schröder…nerlens…who else…

good move on the FO’s part for not signing him to some number they didn’t want…go leon go…

it’ll be interesting to see the next player we overpay for – besides RJ…

By: Stratomatic

Stratomatic — Tue, 24 Oct 2023 05:38:48 +0000

Yes, we all want this. Everyone on this site (except maybe E) wants to keep Immanuel Quickley. But it also may not be possible to keep Quickley and acquire a #1 or #2 scorer.

There are trades where Quickley is included that I’d sign off on.

I think my major frustration with this situation is that I think Quickley should be starting, RJ should be coming off the bench, and the goal should be moving RJ and not Quickley. It feels like the team overvalues RJ, undervalues Quickley, and has Quickley pigeon holed as a PG. I disagree with all that in this snapshot in time and think it’s enough of an error to be called out. We’ll see what happens and how they develop.

By: Ben R

Ben R — Tue, 24 Oct 2023 05:23:41 +0000

Quote – The desire to trade Mitch for a very good player in Myles Turner, who is probably a similar value and could help us solve a lot of our spacing issues, is not exactly a slight to Mitch.

Turner is a 35% 3pt shooter who almost primarily takes wide open threes. Whatever benefit we would get from his 4 attempts a game would pale in comparison to the benefit we get from the 3.5 extra offensive rebounds Mitch gets over Turner.

Quote – What valuation are you putting on IQ? Donovan Mitchell is a hell of a lot better than IQ.

Utah wasn’t even particularly interested in IQ but we were trying to include him so we could keep Grimes or avoid putting in more picks. If it was IQ or no trade that’s one thing but to make no effort to keep him out of the trade speaks volumes.

By: Early Bird Writes

Early Bird Writes — Tue, 24 Oct 2023 05:10:40 +0000

We don’t know how it’s all going to shake out, but assuming we find another legit star scorer to put next to Brunson, I’d sure as hell love to have Quickley on the court with them.

Yes, we all want this. Everyone on this site (except maybe E) wants to keep Immanuel Quickley. But it also may not be possible to keep Quickley and acquire a #1 or #2 scorer.

The issue is that some people think that discussing trading IQ at all, even for a top-20 player or a top-3 player, means the FO doesn’t value him. You can think someone is a very, very good player and still think there’s better players.