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		By: ptmilo		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[damn if donnie had not retired from the nba with armen gilliam we would have some great outrage threads on why kelly oubre and christian wood were still unsigned]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>damn if donnie had not retired from the nba with armen gilliam we would have some great outrage threads on why kelly oubre and christian wood were still unsigned</p>
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		By: pepper		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Aug 2023 04:20:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[charles smith...was as Markief Morris might say &quot;soft&quot;....he was the type of guy that padded his stats against the soft underbelly of the league and when it came time to put the big boy pants on when shit mattered...he folded like a chair...like...you hoped he was going to come through...he wasn&#039;t the dude you knew was going to come through...

now...part of me is probably clouded by that one sequence that we all know about...but whatever they thought they were getting....i think a lot of us knew in those first few months of the season that he wasn&#039;t the pillar that was promised...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>charles smith&#8230;was as Markief Morris might say &#8220;soft&#8221;&#8230;.he was the type of guy that padded his stats against the soft underbelly of the league and when it came time to put the big boy pants on when shit mattered&#8230;he folded like a chair&#8230;like&#8230;you hoped he was going to come through&#8230;he wasn&#8217;t the dude you knew was going to come through&#8230;</p>
<p>now&#8230;part of me is probably clouded by that one sequence that we all know about&#8230;but whatever they thought they were getting&#8230;.i think a lot of us knew in those first few months of the season that he wasn&#8217;t the pillar that was promised&#8230;</p>
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		By: Donnie Walsh		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Aug 2023 04:13:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If KB had been around in 1992, I think that even Strat and TNFH would have agreed that Checkett’s and Grunfeld’s use of draft capital was well spent at the time.

Trading a future 2nd rounder 4 years out for Tony Campbell was most likely the absolute best use of what would be the #49 pick in the 1996 draft. He was Minnesota’s leading scorer and a usage soaker. There was no real downside.

Trading a future 1st rounder 3 years out for 33 year old Rolando Blackman was possibly not the best use of a first round asset, but he hadn’t fallen off a cliff yet, and he did make some very important plays during his Knicks tenure. 

As for Charles Smith, a lot of you guys reminisce fondly about Xavier McDaniel’s year in NY, but Charles Smith was a way better Knick in ‘93 than X was in ‘92, and Smith was WAY WAY better when he was with the Clips. He wasn’t a merc they were bringing in to net some marginal wins with. He was to be a post scoring pillar of the organization to take the load off of Ewing. Smith had a 110+ TS in LA. He was in his 4th year. That’s the player Checketts and Grunfeld traded for.

If you want to call these trades “whiffs” there has to be an alternative that would have been better. But the list of other players traded for future picks that year doesn’t seem to have many guys on it that would have elevated the Knicks higher than 60 wins and a ECF loss to one of the best teams ever.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If KB had been around in 1992, I think that even Strat and TNFH would have agreed that Checkett’s and Grunfeld’s use of draft capital was well spent at the time.</p>
<p>Trading a future 2nd rounder 4 years out for Tony Campbell was most likely the absolute best use of what would be the #49 pick in the 1996 draft. He was Minnesota’s leading scorer and a usage soaker. There was no real downside.</p>
<p>Trading a future 1st rounder 3 years out for 33 year old Rolando Blackman was possibly not the best use of a first round asset, but he hadn’t fallen off a cliff yet, and he did make some very important plays during his Knicks tenure. </p>
<p>As for Charles Smith, a lot of you guys reminisce fondly about Xavier McDaniel’s year in NY, but Charles Smith was a way better Knick in ‘93 than X was in ‘92, and Smith was WAY WAY better when he was with the Clips. He wasn’t a merc they were bringing in to net some marginal wins with. He was to be a post scoring pillar of the organization to take the load off of Ewing. Smith had a 110+ TS in LA. He was in his 4th year. That’s the player Checketts and Grunfeld traded for.</p>
<p>If you want to call these trades “whiffs” there has to be an alternative that would have been better. But the list of other players traded for future picks that year doesn’t seem to have many guys on it that would have elevated the Knicks higher than 60 wins and a ECF loss to one of the best teams ever.</p>
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		By: Hubert IV		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Aug 2023 03:03:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Man that would have been something if we had drafted Sprewell in ‘92.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man that would have been something if we had drafted Sprewell in ‘92.</p>
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		By: BigBlueAL		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Aug 2023 01:47:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If Spree could shoot like Hubert Davis he&#039;d be in the HOF.

Hubert Davis was easily the best Knicks shooter I&#039;d ever seen until Allan Houston arrived, granted the only other candidate would&#039;ve been Trent Tucker.  Unfortunately Hubert was just so physically weak defensively.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Spree could shoot like Hubert Davis he&#8217;d be in the HOF.</p>
<p>Hubert Davis was easily the best Knicks shooter I&#8217;d ever seen until Allan Houston arrived, granted the only other candidate would&#8217;ve been Trent Tucker.  Unfortunately Hubert was just so physically weak defensively.</p>
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		By: Alan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Aug 2023 01:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yet not as good as good as the guy taken four picks later, even if we eventually got to enjoy watching him in blue and orange.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yet not as good as good as the guy taken four picks later, even if we eventually got to enjoy watching him in blue and orange.</p>
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		By: Hubert IV		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Aug 2023 21:59:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Although, ironically, the Knicks draft selection that summer, one Hubert Davis, was better than most of the players they acquired via trade.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although, ironically, the Knicks draft selection that summer, one Hubert Davis, was better than most of the players they acquired via trade.</p>
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		By: Hubert IV		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Aug 2023 21:55:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Donnie no one’s acting like they should have hoarded the picks. This isn’t Leon and his 46 win juggernaut we’re talking about. We were one of the three best teams in the league. Of course you trade the picks. You just try to trade them for good players, is all.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Donnie no one’s acting like they should have hoarded the picks. This isn’t Leon and his 46 win juggernaut we’re talking about. We were one of the three best teams in the league. Of course you trade the picks. You just try to trade them for good players, is all.</p>
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		By: Alan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Aug 2023 21:24:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Do the names Loren Meyer, Amal McCaskill, Constantin Popa, and Geert Hammink mean anything to you? Cause that was the future that was mortgaged for the most wins in franchise history.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It&#039;s not about what the picks turned into. It&#039;s about the fact that we could have done better in trading those picks (and players like Mark Jackson) than we did. And then once we made those deals, it became harder to make additional deals. 

They went all-in that summer, rightfully. And Checketts and Grunfeld repeatedly made the wrong choice.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Do the names Loren Meyer, Amal McCaskill, Constantin Popa, and Geert Hammink mean anything to you? Cause that was the future that was mortgaged for the most wins in franchise history.</p></blockquote>
<p>It&#8217;s not about what the picks turned into. It&#8217;s about the fact that we could have done better in trading those picks (and players like Mark Jackson) than we did. And then once we made those deals, it became harder to make additional deals. </p>
<p>They went all-in that summer, rightfully. And Checketts and Grunfeld repeatedly made the wrong choice.</p>
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		By: Stratomatic		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Aug 2023 21:06:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;The bigger what if for me will always be do the 1997 Knicks beat the Bulls in the Conference Finals…&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;m still having internal debates with myself over whether rules or &quot;intent of rules&quot;  should prevail when being strict about the rules as written is clearly causing an unintended and negative outcome.  I&#039;m a rules guy. If the rules suck, fix them, but I still haven&#039;t fully recovered from that series. IMO, that was the best Knicks team of that era.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The bigger what if for me will always be do the 1997 Knicks beat the Bulls in the Conference Finals…</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m still having internal debates with myself over whether rules or &#8220;intent of rules&#8221;  should prevail when being strict about the rules as written is clearly causing an unintended and negative outcome.  I&#8217;m a rules guy. If the rules suck, fix them, but I still haven&#8217;t fully recovered from that series. IMO, that was the best Knicks team of that era.</p>
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