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		By: TNFH		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jul 2023 23:40:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[FYI, the Liberty are really good, fun to watch, and you can get great seats for $35 or so.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FYI, the Liberty are really good, fun to watch, and you can get great seats for $35 or so.</p>
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		By: DRed		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jul 2023 21:21:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Playoff performance is kinda noisy I don&#039;t think it matters all that much more than it&#039;s better RJ was good than sucked.  Donovan Mitchell was a playoff monster at age 23 and is a terrific player and he sucked in the playoffs the last 2 seasons.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Playoff performance is kinda noisy I don&#8217;t think it matters all that much more than it&#8217;s better RJ was good than sucked.  Donovan Mitchell was a playoff monster at age 23 and is a terrific player and he sucked in the playoffs the last 2 seasons.</p>
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		By: Z--man		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jul 2023 19:44:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Chris Duarte is another one who was traded for almost nothing...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris Duarte is another one who was traded for almost nothing&#8230;</p>
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		By: Z--man		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jul 2023 19:41:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Everything Mitch does is goofy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everything Mitch does is goofy.</p>
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		By: DRed		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jul 2023 19:32:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Nothing goofy about Mitch working on conditioning and FTs]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing goofy about Mitch working on conditioning and FTs</p>
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		By: Brian Cronin		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jul 2023 19:12:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://knickerblogger.net/2023/07/knicks-morning-news-2023-07-27/#comment-861192&quot;&gt;Z--man&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;blockquote&gt;We just lost significant value in trading OBI…you can’t keep losing trades like that and hope to improve the team.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It annoys me how the new CBA is causing a lot of these deals now. You know, the Celtics trading a rotation piece for nothing, the Knicks trading Obi for nothing, the Suns trading Cam Payne for nothing, etc.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://knickerblogger.net/2023/07/knicks-morning-news-2023-07-27/#comment-861192">Z&#8211;man</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>We just lost significant value in trading OBI…you can’t keep losing trades like that and hope to improve the team.</p></blockquote>
<p>It annoys me how the new CBA is causing a lot of these deals now. You know, the Celtics trading a rotation piece for nothing, the Knicks trading Obi for nothing, the Suns trading Cam Payne for nothing, etc.</p>
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		By: Z--man		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jul 2023 19:02:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So now that it appears that both Trevor Keels and Duane Washington Jr. have been officially waived, we have 11 fully guaranteed deals, 1 likely to be guaranteed soon deal (Sims), and 3 two-way players (Martin, Knight, and Windler). Ignoring a consolidation trade or a Fournier salary dump for the time being, it will be interesting to see who gets that last roster spot...will it go to one of the 2-way guys or a vet&#039;s minimum guy? I also wonder if Roby and Jeffries will stick or whether they will be replaced by the 2-way guys.

I would like to see a healthy competition and continual churning regarding the 5 fringy spots (last 3 roster spots and 3 2-ways). In other words, I like that they are keeping a roster spot open for a prospect who shakes loose due to a numbers casualty.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So now that it appears that both Trevor Keels and Duane Washington Jr. have been officially waived, we have 11 fully guaranteed deals, 1 likely to be guaranteed soon deal (Sims), and 3 two-way players (Martin, Knight, and Windler). Ignoring a consolidation trade or a Fournier salary dump for the time being, it will be interesting to see who gets that last roster spot&#8230;will it go to one of the 2-way guys or a vet&#8217;s minimum guy? I also wonder if Roby and Jeffries will stick or whether they will be replaced by the 2-way guys.</p>
<p>I would like to see a healthy competition and continual churning regarding the 5 fringy spots (last 3 roster spots and 3 2-ways). In other words, I like that they are keeping a roster spot open for a prospect who shakes loose due to a numbers casualty.</p>
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		By: TNFH		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jul 2023 18:57:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The RJ and Randle fit just sucks, period. The lineup data backs it up, the eye-test backs it up, and common sense backs it up. The 3 and the 4 are positions you pretty much &lt;em&gt;have&lt;/em&gt; to get good shooting from these days and neither of those guys are good in shooters in seasons where fans are allowed in the arenas (it&#039;s a bit more complicated with Randle because being a little below average at his volume definitely had value this past season, but the reason for his volume is that teams leave him open with good reason).

If we&#039;re going to become a yearly contender (this feels like a better framing of the pertinent question, as one could reasonably argue we were literally &quot;a contender&quot; this past season) I&#039;m almost positive it won&#039;t be with both of them on the roster.

The case for keeping Randle over RJ is about as simple as it gets. He&#039;s had a handful of good, even great, NBA seasons and RJ has had zero. 

The case for keeping RJ over Randle relies on a lot of projection, which doesn&#039;t make it wrong. It just means that if we go this route we may well regret it if the optimistic projections don&#039;t pan out. 

The hang up is Randle doesn&#039;t have trade value commensurate to his production, because teams don&#039;t really like high-usage 4s and there are questions about his ability to scale down his role. So it&#039;s not like we can trade him for some massive haul, even though players in his BPM range do in fact get traded for massive hauls all the time.

I dunno, to me all signs point to trading RJ if another team values him relatively highly. We don&#039;t know if he&#039;s good, he gets paid a lot, and even if he takes leaps in other areas his poor shooting will always force us to build lineups around him, something his production definitely doesn&#039;t justify now and likely never will.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The RJ and Randle fit just sucks, period. The lineup data backs it up, the eye-test backs it up, and common sense backs it up. The 3 and the 4 are positions you pretty much <em>have</em> to get good shooting from these days and neither of those guys are good in shooters in seasons where fans are allowed in the arenas (it&#8217;s a bit more complicated with Randle because being a little below average at his volume definitely had value this past season, but the reason for his volume is that teams leave him open with good reason).</p>
<p>If we&#8217;re going to become a yearly contender (this feels like a better framing of the pertinent question, as one could reasonably argue we were literally &#8220;a contender&#8221; this past season) I&#8217;m almost positive it won&#8217;t be with both of them on the roster.</p>
<p>The case for keeping Randle over RJ is about as simple as it gets. He&#8217;s had a handful of good, even great, NBA seasons and RJ has had zero. </p>
<p>The case for keeping RJ over Randle relies on a lot of projection, which doesn&#8217;t make it wrong. It just means that if we go this route we may well regret it if the optimistic projections don&#8217;t pan out. </p>
<p>The hang up is Randle doesn&#8217;t have trade value commensurate to his production, because teams don&#8217;t really like high-usage 4s and there are questions about his ability to scale down his role. So it&#8217;s not like we can trade him for some massive haul, even though players in his BPM range do in fact get traded for massive hauls all the time.</p>
<p>I dunno, to me all signs point to trading RJ if another team values him relatively highly. We don&#8217;t know if he&#8217;s good, he gets paid a lot, and even if he takes leaps in other areas his poor shooting will always force us to build lineups around him, something his production definitely doesn&#8217;t justify now and likely never will.</p>
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		By: Z--man		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jul 2023 18:33:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;But it seems Leon is committed to Randle.&quot;

I don&#039;t think it&#039;s so much about him loving Randle as that he is more valuable on our roster in his role on his salary than he would be in a trade. I think the GMs in the league are well aware of his flaws, and while he has some plus trade value, it wouldn&#039;t bring back enough to justify letting go of an all-star level player. We just lost significant value in trading OBI...you can&#039;t keep losing trades like that and hope to improve the team. 

Now if he has another solid season, maybe his value ticks up because his contract is that much shorter and that much further from the max.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But it seems Leon is committed to Randle.&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s so much about him loving Randle as that he is more valuable on our roster in his role on his salary than he would be in a trade. I think the GMs in the league are well aware of his flaws, and while he has some plus trade value, it wouldn&#8217;t bring back enough to justify letting go of an all-star level player. We just lost significant value in trading OBI&#8230;you can&#8217;t keep losing trades like that and hope to improve the team. </p>
<p>Now if he has another solid season, maybe his value ticks up because his contract is that much shorter and that much further from the max.</p>
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		By: Z--man		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jul 2023 18:26:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Just realized we can field an all-lefty lineup&quot;

Nate Knight is a lefty as well...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Just realized we can field an all-lefty lineup&#8221;</p>
<p>Nate Knight is a lefty as well&#8230;</p>
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