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		By: Reese Bobby, but only a little bit		</title>
		<link>https://knickerblogger.net/2023/06/knicks-morning-news-2023-06-07/#comment-856660</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Reese Bobby, but only a little bit]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jun 2023 11:27:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[No one would be going on about the &quot;draft pick excess&quot; if the Pistons traded Jaden Ivey and the 5 for Mitchell Robinson, Josh Hart, Julius Randle, the Pistons protected 1 and the Wizards protected 1.

It&#039;s a completely made up criterion.  Back fitted and invented to try to salvage a losing hand.

Hubert wrote this:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Here’s the problem with your logic…

It is hard to create a team that can win a playoff series if you are abiding by all the tenets of what it takes to win the title. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

You absolutely know this is true and you spent years essentially writing things in support of it.  You literally, unequivocally know that what Hubert wrote there is true.  Yet for whatever reason, you&#039;ve spent weeks breaking his balls over it.  The reasons for your conversion would be interesting to hear -- I have some speculative thoughts on it. 

Less than a calendar year ago, you rightly argued that the Knicks&#039; position was one of the worst in the association.  The only thing asset/roster wise that has changed since then is that they&#039;ve traded a 1 for Josh Hart.  It&#039;s completely untenable.  For you to spend all this time busting the chops of people who haven&#039;t seen fit to waver just because the Knicks traded a 1 for Josh Hart is unseemly.  Hubert has nicely (but robustly) tried to communicate this, and so have I.  Take it for what it is.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No one would be going on about the &#8220;draft pick excess&#8221; if the Pistons traded Jaden Ivey and the 5 for Mitchell Robinson, Josh Hart, Julius Randle, the Pistons protected 1 and the Wizards protected 1.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a completely made up criterion.  Back fitted and invented to try to salvage a losing hand.</p>
<p>Hubert wrote this:</p>
<blockquote><p>Here’s the problem with your logic…</p>
<p>It is hard to create a team that can win a playoff series if you are abiding by all the tenets of what it takes to win the title. </p></blockquote>
<p>You absolutely know this is true and you spent years essentially writing things in support of it.  You literally, unequivocally know that what Hubert wrote there is true.  Yet for whatever reason, you&#8217;ve spent weeks breaking his balls over it.  The reasons for your conversion would be interesting to hear &#8212; I have some speculative thoughts on it. </p>
<p>Less than a calendar year ago, you rightly argued that the Knicks&#8217; position was one of the worst in the association.  The only thing asset/roster wise that has changed since then is that they&#8217;ve traded a 1 for Josh Hart.  It&#8217;s completely untenable.  For you to spend all this time busting the chops of people who haven&#8217;t seen fit to waver just because the Knicks traded a 1 for Josh Hart is unseemly.  Hubert has nicely (but robustly) tried to communicate this, and so have I.  Take it for what it is.</p>
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		By: TNFH		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jun 2023 11:21:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;They’ve traded three first round draft picks in three years. They project to have no rookies from either the 2022 or 2023 classes on the roster. &lt;/blockquote&gt;


Their &lt;em&gt;forward looking&lt;/em&gt; draft pick situation is relevant mostly because of their ability to make a big trade. I don&#039;t think any receiving team is gonna turn down their massive pick package because they disapprove of moves they&#039;ve made in the past, but YMMV.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>They’ve traded three first round draft picks in three years. They project to have no rookies from either the 2022 or 2023 classes on the roster. </p></blockquote>
<p>Their <em>forward looking</em> draft pick situation is relevant mostly because of their ability to make a big trade. I don&#8217;t think any receiving team is gonna turn down their massive pick package because they disapprove of moves they&#8217;ve made in the past, but YMMV.</p>
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		By: TNFH		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TNFH]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jun 2023 11:19:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;So saying “this specific post is right” = I said everything he wrote within 24 hours of that post is right. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

No, but most people will take it to mean that you think the contents of the specific post you are saying is right, is right. 

In the specific post, E says the Knicks&#039; position, &lt;em&gt;specifically defined as to include their draft pick situation&lt;/em&gt;, is attainable by all teams as a matter of choice.

That is what you said is right (with the boldness and the capitals). I&#039;m sorry I interpreted that as you thinking it&#039;s right, but in my defense I think it was a logical interpretation.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>So saying “this specific post is right” = I said everything he wrote within 24 hours of that post is right. </p></blockquote>
<p>No, but most people will take it to mean that you think the contents of the specific post you are saying is right, is right. </p>
<p>In the specific post, E says the Knicks&#8217; position, <em>specifically defined as to include their draft pick situation</em>, is attainable by all teams as a matter of choice.</p>
<p>That is what you said is right (with the boldness and the capitals). I&#8217;m sorry I interpreted that as you thinking it&#8217;s right, but in my defense I think it was a logical interpretation.</p>
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		By: Reese Bobby, but only a little bit		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Reese Bobby, but only a little bit]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jun 2023 10:46:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;I’m not even trying to be pedantic, but when evaluating a team’s position it’s an enormous deal whether they’ve gone scorched earth to reach their current quality. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

They&#039;ve traded three first round draft picks in three years.   They project to have no rookies from either the 2022 or 2023 classes on the roster.  Yes, they do have some heavily protected picks left over from their silly effort to machinate and cogitate their way to Isaiah Hartenstein,(*) but so what?  They have a roster immaterially different than a scorched earth roster.

If the hypothetical Pistons traded Cade Cunningham and Jaden Ivey and this year&#039;s 1 for a bunch of mezzanine assets and when the dust settled happened to have a couple heavily protected 1s left over, no one would sensibly brag about the heavily protected 1s and contort themselves into salivating about the &quot;more 1s owing than owed.&quot;  It would be definitive scorched earth and the literal zenith of pedantry.

This concept does not favor your &quot;side,&quot; it favors ours.  Yell and scream as will be yelled and screamed, and it still won&#039;t change things.

(*) And to rid themselves of a contract they got on the buyout market -- one of the most scorched earth set of transactions in association history.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I’m not even trying to be pedantic, but when evaluating a team’s position it’s an enormous deal whether they’ve gone scorched earth to reach their current quality. </p></blockquote>
<p>They&#8217;ve traded three first round draft picks in three years.   They project to have no rookies from either the 2022 or 2023 classes on the roster.  Yes, they do have some heavily protected picks left over from their silly effort to machinate and cogitate their way to Isaiah Hartenstein,(*) but so what?  They have a roster immaterially different than a scorched earth roster.</p>
<p>If the hypothetical Pistons traded Cade Cunningham and Jaden Ivey and this year&#8217;s 1 for a bunch of mezzanine assets and when the dust settled happened to have a couple heavily protected 1s left over, no one would sensibly brag about the heavily protected 1s and contort themselves into salivating about the &#8220;more 1s owing than owed.&#8221;  It would be definitive scorched earth and the literal zenith of pedantry.</p>
<p>This concept does not favor your &#8220;side,&#8221; it favors ours.  Yell and scream as will be yelled and screamed, and it still won&#8217;t change things.</p>
<p>(*) And to rid themselves of a contract they got on the buyout market &#8212; one of the most scorched earth set of transactions in association history.</p>
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		By: Reese Bobby, but only a little bit		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Reese Bobby, but only a little bit]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jun 2023 10:37:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;He said that is “basically right,” and you agreed.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yes, exactly -- &quot;basically&quot; right, meaning I don&#039;t agree with all the particulars -- including the &quot;hustlebunnies&quot; part -- but agree with the Wizards example.  And the important essence that anyone could do it. 

Just like now.  Nothing has changed.

(And the Knicks did go into a &quot;pick deficit&quot; -- they&#039;ve traded three 1s in three years.  It&#039;s false and misleading -- fraudulent -- to insinuate that the Knicks got to their &quot;position&quot; without trading 1s.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>He said that is “basically right,” and you agreed.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yes, exactly &#8212; &#8220;basically&#8221; right, meaning I don&#8217;t agree with all the particulars &#8212; including the &#8220;hustlebunnies&#8221; part &#8212; but agree with the Wizards example.  And the important essence that anyone could do it. </p>
<p>Just like now.  Nothing has changed.</p>
<p>(And the Knicks did go into a &#8220;pick deficit&#8221; &#8212; they&#8217;ve traded three 1s in three years.  It&#8217;s false and misleading &#8212; fraudulent &#8212; to insinuate that the Knicks got to their &#8220;position&#8221; without trading 1s.)</p>
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		By: Hubert IV		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hubert IV]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jun 2023 05:08:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So saying “this specific post is right” = I said everything he wrote within 24 hours of that post is right. Or is it more? Am I on the hook for his Porzingis take now, too? I did say he was right.

This is why you’re a troll now.

In no world can a man of intelligence truly believe such nonsense.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So saying “this specific post is right” = I said everything he wrote within 24 hours of that post is right. Or is it more? Am I on the hook for his Porzingis take now, too? I did say he was right.</p>
<p>This is why you’re a troll now.</p>
<p>In no world can a man of intelligence truly believe such nonsense.</p>
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		By: Downtown Doogie Brown		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Downtown Doogie Brown]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jun 2023 04:39:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[TNFH: &quot;I don’t know what to tell you. If you don’t think someone is right, do not say in all bolded capital letters that they are right. That risks giving the impression that you think they are right.&quot;

LOL!!!!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TNFH: &#8220;I don’t know what to tell you. If you don’t think someone is right, do not say in all bolded capital letters that they are right. That risks giving the impression that you think they are right.&#8221;</p>
<p>LOL!!!!!</p>
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		By: Donnie Walsh		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Donnie Walsh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jun 2023 04:35:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt; Also read the post where I said…&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I’m willing to bet only 3 or 4 people in all of Knickerbloggerstan bothered to read any of the blah blah blah written here this evening. It was tiring just to scroll over.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> Also read the post where I said…</p></blockquote>
<p>I’m willing to bet only 3 or 4 people in all of Knickerbloggerstan bothered to read any of the blah blah blah written here this evening. It was tiring just to scroll over.</p>
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		By: Donnie Walsh		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Donnie Walsh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jun 2023 04:33:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt; Apparently if you sit out in this fumarole of a city for 24 hours it would be equivalent to smoking six cigarettes. Can anyone confirm this? Because when I have important non-basketball questions to answer Knickerblogger is the source I trust.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

What, is this y’all’s first forest fire? Next are you going to tell me you’ve never been shaken out of bed by an earthquake?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> Apparently if you sit out in this fumarole of a city for 24 hours it would be equivalent to smoking six cigarettes. Can anyone confirm this? Because when I have important non-basketball questions to answer Knickerblogger is the source I trust.</p></blockquote>
<p>What, is this y’all’s first forest fire? Next are you going to tell me you’ve never been shaken out of bed by an earthquake?</p>
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		By: ess-dog		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jun 2023 03:57:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Also read the post where I said there are 100,000 possible permutations so there’s no need to focus on the one I came up with in two seconds&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Unfortunately, I did read it. It’s funny how no one wants to laud you for your vaguest possible hypothetical in which you demand no one attempt to test it against reality, isn’t it?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Also read the post where I said there are 100,000 possible permutations so there’s no need to focus on the one I came up with in two seconds</p></blockquote>
<p>Unfortunately, I did read it. It’s funny how no one wants to laud you for your vaguest possible hypothetical in which you demand no one attempt to test it against reality, isn’t it?</p>
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