Comments on: Donte’s Inferno: The 2023 NBA Free Agency Thread

By: Z--man

Z--man — Sat, 01 Jul 2023 11:59:55 +0000

Until Thibs is fired, I don’t see the logic in signing a player like Watanabe. Prince doesn’t seem like a fit for us either.

I really like Donte but if that falls through I think we’re still in good shape when it comes to our ability to make deals to improve the team relative to other teams. There are many teams who are going to look back and rue what they did on June 30, 2023. I doubt that many will rue what they DIDN’T do.

By: gkhenman

gkhenman — Sat, 01 Jul 2023 10:26:55 +0000

It’s not over yet but, I am very disappointed we couldn’t grab one of the bigger wings that were available. Watanabe went to Phoenix for the vet minimum. Prince to the Lakers for $4 million would have been nice. Either one of them could have helped us. Are we really waiting for DiVincenzo? If we are, I really hope there is a big trade right behind him signing. He is just too redundant with our existing wings to go into next season with. Boston, Indiana, and Cleveland have really helped themselves. I think we need to do something more than rely on internal development to keep pace.

By: Max

Max — Sat, 01 Jul 2023 09:41:33 +0000

For the second time in a row I did choose to sleep instead of waiting for Leon to do something and for the second time I did right (the other was draft night).

But thinking about it, maybe I’m not the only one asleep, Leon is probably snoring in a cryogenic chamber since may 12th…

By: Alan

Alan — Sat, 01 Jul 2023 09:24:05 +0000

Many random thoughts that I’ll probably port over to the morning thread, but I’m awake three hours too early for that, so…

* What in the world are the Wizards doing with that Kuzma deal? If the goal is to tank, tank. If the goal is to flip him later, then you risk any of the following: 1)He costs you ping pong balls, 2)He takes time, touches, and development away from their kids, 3)He becomes a John Collins-esque albatross that you later have to dump for nothing, or even have to pay to dump.

* Similarly, what sense does it make for Masai to let FVV go while resigning Poeltl? If the concern was the first that was traded to get Poeltl, that’s a sunk cost. Again, if you’re going to tank, tank. Unless Masai has a brilliant plan to flip Siakam for a whole lot, Barnes is ready to step up, etc.

* The idea of Hali deservedly getting the rookie max stings even more as the rumors get hot about us trading Obi to play alongside him, almost certainly for a light return.

* On the other hand, Bane unsurprisingly getting the max reopens the whole IQ vs Bane debate. IQ is reportedly looking for a contract around $100 million. Bane is better than IQ, but is he that much better?

By: Early Bird Writes

Early Bird Writes — Sat, 01 Jul 2023 06:15:50 +0000

We can’t go way over the cap and then add guys on after. Once we’re over the 2nd apron we’re pretty much stuck with the team we have. We don’t get full MLE players, we don’t get tax MLE players, we don’t get much in the way of trades. We’re stuck with what we have so when we go into the 2nd apron we want to have these guys already.

We don’t get to pickup Bruce Browns or Donte Divincenzos or restructure our roster to get Rui Hachimuras, Malik Beasleys and Vanderbilts.

We get guys on minimum contracts who leave as soon as they play well. If we get a star player and Brunson re-ups for the max we better have the whole rotation locked in because those are going to be our guys going forward.

Just because things might go wrong doesn’t mean we should never sign a player to a contract again.

By: djphan

djphan — Sat, 01 Jul 2023 05:42:20 +0000

no we can’t, that’s the whole point of the new CBA

we can’t get average players without the use of the MLE? that’s a pretty incredible claim to be making….

By: Knick fan not in NJ

Knick fan not in NJ — Sat, 01 Jul 2023 05:25:53 +0000

I think role players sometimes look better when they are on championship teams with stars than they do on an ordinary team where they have to carry the load.

By: Stratomatic

Stratomatic — Sat, 01 Jul 2023 05:21:15 +0000

The way the money is flying around, I’m not so sure RJ’s contract is even a problem anymore.

Maybe all the cap and strategy projections are wrong AGAIN and everyone is wildly overpaying, but I suspect the kinds of contracts we are giving out (or will be giving out) are going to look pretty attractive if this keeps up. Randle and Brunson look like screaming bargains in this environment. When we gave them out some people thought Randle’s was an albatross and Brunson was an overpay we had to do. I don’t think we’ll have a problem consolidating picks and players for a significant upgrade and I’m not entirely convinced we need one of those stars upgrades anyway if we get the right player in RJ’s slot and some development from Quick/Grimes.

By: Early Bird Writes

Early Bird Writes — Sat, 01 Jul 2023 05:01:09 +0000

and it must be some strange coincidence that they somehow almost always get the right role players right?

I have no idea if this is or isn’t your point, it’s too garbled for me to parse, but if you’re trying to say that we can find these guys later… no we can’t, that’s the whole point of the new CBA

By: ess-dog

ess-dog — Sat, 01 Jul 2023 04:25:31 +0000

some teams get lucky

That’s all I wanted to hear you admit, thanks.