Comments on: 2023 Playoffs Thread – Dead Team Walking @ Cavaliers

By: Max

Max — Wed, 19 Apr 2023 10:46:58 +0000

With an unusually very late decision (20 minutes before midnight ET) the League suspended Green for 1 game, citing “an history of unsportsmanlike acts” as a motivation and barely anticipating the Kings’ announcement that Sabonis is questionable for Game 3 (it would have been embarrassing to have the “perpetrator” play and the “victim” sidelined).

I’m more and more convinced that the NBA is using Shams, Woj and a few others as “barometer”.
They supply them some unofficial “breaking news” about their decisions, then watch the media, teams and fans reaction and later take the official decision, sometimes backtracking (as in this instance) if the public outcry is loud.

By: Ben R

Ben R — Wed, 19 Apr 2023 05:04:37 +0000

That game was rough. I hope we can bounce back. A humiliation that bad (that is the kind of absolute domination you generally only see from a 1-8 matchup) can either energize you or break you. I am worried that it makes us less likely to be able to stay steady the next time Cleveland goes on a run.

Cleveland wasn’t even playing that well and their defense was good but not great and we were completely outclassed and embarrassed.

29 point losses in the playoffs are hard to simply brush off. I hope we come back and win the next game handily because if we don’t we probably lose in 5.

By: Donnie Walsh

Donnie Walsh — Wed, 19 Apr 2023 05:04:28 +0000

I think that “dirty” should be reserved for players who do deeds that gain them an advantage while being surreptitious. Flicking people in the balls, tugging on shorts, spitting in the floor to make their opponent hydroplane… all the John Stockton shit. I think trying to block someone going up for a dunk in a playoff game on your home court may not be nice, or even smart, but I don’t think it’s dirty. (But, then again, I don’t think that stomping on an opponent’s chest while he’s laying on the ground is dirty either:)

By: Z--man

Z--man — Wed, 19 Apr 2023 03:35:18 +0000

The part me and Donnie agree on is that neither of them should have been in the game at that point.

By: Hubert IV

Hubert IV — Wed, 19 Apr 2023 03:30:26 +0000

Hubert “one game tells you all you need to know” IV

“We never would have beaten the Cavs in game 1 without him” just doesn’t have the same ring to it if you lose in 6 games.

By: Hubert IV

Hubert IV — Wed, 19 Apr 2023 03:28:44 +0000

At least RJ delivered on his promise….

Haha.

That quote was reasonable grounds for being benched.

By: Z--man

Z--man — Wed, 19 Apr 2023 03:15:04 +0000

Dirty can also imply not caring whether you hurt someone or not. Allen is not new to the game, he knows full well that that is a dangerous play. Again, not labeling him a dirty player on the basis of one play, but that’s exactly the kind of foul that dirty players are known for committing.

If Oak, Mase or Ewing did that to someone when the Knicks were up by over 20 with 2 minutes left, they also would have been crucified. Comparing what Allen did to guys like Oak and Mase makes the case that it was dirty, as they were dirty as hell.

And if Julius or Mitch had done that to one of the Cavs when we were up 20 with 2 minutes to go, I’d have felt the same way.

By: Donnie Walsh

Donnie Walsh — Wed, 19 Apr 2023 02:32:58 +0000

“Dirty” implies malicious intent. Allen didn’t want to hurt Randle. He wanted to deny east baskets in the playoffs, just like Mason, Oakley, Starks, and Ewing were told to do, once upon a time.

By: Z--man

Z--man — Wed, 19 Apr 2023 02:23:38 +0000

“If you’re on the court, you play. He tried to block the shot. There was nothing dirty.”

Sorry Donnie, I think that is BS. It was reckless and dangerous. Players know when to ease up, and Randle clearly was ahead of him with the angle to the rim and there was no way Allen was going to block that shot without commiting a flagrant foul. It occurred in a situation where there was no reason for a starter to commit a foul, let alone an obvious flagrant. It flies in the face of good sportmanship, way worse than when a starting player from a winning team scores the ball when they are up 20 with ten seconds left rather than dribbling it out.

You can commit a dirty play without having the rep of a dirty player. If Draymond Green or Dillon Brooks did that, they would have been crucified.

By: BigBlueAL

BigBlueAL — Wed, 19 Apr 2023 02:18:34 +0000

Alright time to just forget this game, it’s onto Friday night where the atmosphere at MSG should be electric.