Comments on: Knicks Morning News (2023.03.20)

By: BigBlueAL

BigBlueAL — Mon, 20 Mar 2023 23:50:28 +0000

This is fucking embarrassing…

By: BigBlueAL

BigBlueAL — Mon, 20 Mar 2023 23:48:28 +0000

Minnesota has one of the worst offenses in the NBA yet they scored on their first 6 possessions.

By: Knick fan not in NJ

Knick fan not in NJ — Mon, 20 Mar 2023 23:41:19 +0000

Although, on second thought, I’m not actually sure any Toronto fans complained about the Bargnani deal.

By: Knick fan not in NJ

Knick fan not in NJ — Mon, 20 Mar 2023 23:40:05 +0000

I’m sorry, but when an opposing coach complains “Josh Hart kicked our ass” it makes you happy about the reasonable trade that brought him here. Note, this is a literal quote from Mike Brown after our game with the Kings.

I’m not worried about possible birds in the bush. My experience is that every single trade in the NBA has fans complaining that their GM should have gotten a better deal. It seems this trade is no exception.

By: deeefense

deeefense — Mon, 20 Mar 2023 23:16:01 +0000

If you asked around the NBA right now “what was the best move at the deadline?”, imo the Knicks trading for Josh Hart would win in a landslide. A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush. In this case we got an American Eagle in hand. To worry about some 20th or so pick and some wild scenario where we made space for him and he chooses us is just looking for a reason to complain. It’s way way more likely if we didn’t make this move we never would have gotten him.

By: walkerandbendercornerstones

walkerandbendercornerstones — Mon, 20 Mar 2023 23:09:59 +0000

Yes, ok me. I’m one of the few who beleived this team could be legitimately good before the season started, thinks rose has done a good job and likes thibs. I like where I stand right now with my analysis.

By: deeefense

deeefense — Mon, 20 Mar 2023 23:09:04 +0000

IMO, we should stop thinking exclusively along the lines of “win now” or “draft rebuild”. We are probably going to continue doing a little of both. The Hart deal made us better immediately, but he’s young enough to give another contract to. We also have a few players in the rotation that could easily be part of the next cycle of rebuilding. We are doing this quite well. We have a mix of YOUNG veterans, young players, and plenty of dry powder. Maybe 6 years from now a few of the current veterans will be gone, but a few our of current young players will be the young veterans carrying another group of younger players we drafted or traded for.

By: djphan

djphan — Mon, 20 Mar 2023 22:54:22 +0000

but we have no reason whatsoever to believe Hart would raise hell to maneuver his way to the Knicks if he were traded to another team.

why would he need to raise hell? he’s a free agent…. as in free to go wherever he wants to…. did kyle lowry raise hell in forcing a sign and trade to miami? no.. of course not…. this isn’t some move reserved for primadonnas.. this isn’t a james harden… anthony davis or kevin durant situation where they’re already locked into a deal AND then forcing a trade….

Would Josh Hart elected to have come to a team this off-season where as a three he’d be behind a 22 year old guy who’s just starting a 25m yearly extension?

how about as a 2 and replacing a 2nd year guy who’s struggling in his second year and who’s already effectively flipped him in minutes priority? that’s impossible i guess…

By: Z--man

Z--man — Mon, 20 Mar 2023 22:50:43 +0000

Just about every analyst gave the Knicks a B or B+ on the trade. And that was before JHart gave us 15 games of all-star production in the thick of a run to the playoffs.

The horse is out of the barn on the win-now discussion. As such, this trade was an extremely impactful win-now move with negligible win-later risk. The FO acted decisively in that context and it has paid off in spades. I truly don’t understand how they can be second-guessed in that context.

By: deeefense

deeefense — Mon, 20 Mar 2023 22:47:26 +0000

To continue my last post, we didn’t see the Hart trade and its huge impact coming. There could be others just like it. We just can’t see or know what they are yet because circumstances around the league are constantly changing. It’s a matter of how much we trust management to be selective and use our assets wisely. But we are not a finished product. Cavs may have more internal upside from their current team, but we have more external upside to go with our internal upside. We also now have a very good team that makes us very attractive to someone that wants out of their current circumstances.