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		By: Owen		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[NBA has been on break so long I almost watched college last night….

IQ has played pretty well his whole time here. Awareness of how good his defense is has blossomed lately. Maybe it’s leveled up. But he has been like this the whole time basically and I don’t know why we gave RJ the deal we did knowing that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NBA has been on break so long I almost watched college last night….</p>
<p>IQ has played pretty well his whole time here. Awareness of how good his defense is has blossomed lately. Maybe it’s leveled up. But he has been like this the whole time basically and I don’t know why we gave RJ the deal we did knowing that.</p>
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		By: walkerandbendercornerstones		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2023 12:09:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[While I’m losing faith in RJ turning into a really good player, I’m not ready to dump him for lavine. I’m still willing to be patient with him.

As for IQ. I think he absolutely has it in him to maybe be an all star caliber player. The progress he has made this season has been phenomenal and he has turned into a really well rounded two way player. And his work ethic seems off the charts. No way I’m including IQ in any trades right now unless it’s a true elite superstar in their prime.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I’m losing faith in RJ turning into a really good player, I’m not ready to dump him for lavine. I’m still willing to be patient with him.</p>
<p>As for IQ. I think he absolutely has it in him to maybe be an all star caliber player. The progress he has made this season has been phenomenal and he has turned into a really well rounded two way player. And his work ethic seems off the charts. No way I’m including IQ in any trades right now unless it’s a true elite superstar in their prime.</p>
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		By: Donnie Walsh		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2023 05:35:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[*** Barton [has] alternated good and bad seasons every year since 2017. Do we assume that he’s suddenly washed up, or is this just his typical yoyoing?***

It only makes sense if his yoyoing is synched with Randle’s yoyoing, but unfortunately they are staggered. Pass.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*** Barton [has] alternated good and bad seasons every year since 2017. Do we assume that he’s suddenly washed up, or is this just his typical yoyoing?***</p>
<p>It only makes sense if his yoyoing is synched with Randle’s yoyoing, but unfortunately they are staggered. Pass.</p>
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		By: The Oakman Cometh		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Oakman Cometh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2023 04:33:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Regarding DFS having a down year, the Knicks have to be willing to take chances on guys with track records. Smart teams buy low. That&#039;s why I&#039;d kick the tires on Barton too. He&#039;s alternated good and bad seasons every year since 2017. Do we assume that he&#039;s suddenly washed up, or is this just his typical yoyoing? For a minimum flyer I&#039;d certainly find out.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding DFS having a down year, the Knicks have to be willing to take chances on guys with track records. Smart teams buy low. That&#8217;s why I&#8217;d kick the tires on Barton too. He&#8217;s alternated good and bad seasons every year since 2017. Do we assume that he&#8217;s suddenly washed up, or is this just his typical yoyoing? For a minimum flyer I&#8217;d certainly find out.</p>
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		By: Z--man		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2023 03:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;If you’re building gradually you have to keep improving, and I don’t think the progress of IQ, Grimes and Barrett is going to be enough to make a significant improvement. I like IQ and Grimes a lot but they top as quality role players for a team that needs more than that, and I don’t have hopes for Barrett.&quot;

This is totally a fair POV, as none of us know for sure how IQ, Grimes and RJ will pan out. I just happen to be more optimistic on their prospects than you, hence I consider them more valuable than you do in terms of critical decision-making. Time will tell, of course, but I am just trying to highlight the amazing advanced-metrics takes on IQ and Grimes in valuing them, and the *good* RJ stretches that possibly indicate a reasonable ceiling when he stabilizes at a more mature level. But I understand the reasoning behind wanting to turn over the assets we have before they depreciate, either by hitting a ceiling or by hitting their next contract. 

And I have more regard for the FO&#039;s process than many here do. In fact, it wasn&#039;t long ago that *reasonable* guys like TNFH were definitively stating that there wasn&#039;t a process at all, yet now he is recalibrating based on new data. I&#039;m not fully in the &quot;trust the process&quot; camp...there have been enough hiccups to warrant healthy skepticism...and some *bad* decisions have been pre-empted by fate, e.g. selling the farm for Spida. 

But the process seems to be at least theoretically grounded in being opportunistic and shrewd rather than rash and cavalier (npi) with our assets cache.  And the product on the floor reflects some success with that methodology. So being patient at this critical time is of the utmost importance. Let&#039;s take the risk and see what we really have in these advanced metrics-wrecking assets, rather than taking a risk on a player with a known serious medical issue. That&#039;s pretty much all I&#039;m saying.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If you’re building gradually you have to keep improving, and I don’t think the progress of IQ, Grimes and Barrett is going to be enough to make a significant improvement. I like IQ and Grimes a lot but they top as quality role players for a team that needs more than that, and I don’t have hopes for Barrett.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is totally a fair POV, as none of us know for sure how IQ, Grimes and RJ will pan out. I just happen to be more optimistic on their prospects than you, hence I consider them more valuable than you do in terms of critical decision-making. Time will tell, of course, but I am just trying to highlight the amazing advanced-metrics takes on IQ and Grimes in valuing them, and the *good* RJ stretches that possibly indicate a reasonable ceiling when he stabilizes at a more mature level. But I understand the reasoning behind wanting to turn over the assets we have before they depreciate, either by hitting a ceiling or by hitting their next contract. </p>
<p>And I have more regard for the FO&#8217;s process than many here do. In fact, it wasn&#8217;t long ago that *reasonable* guys like TNFH were definitively stating that there wasn&#8217;t a process at all, yet now he is recalibrating based on new data. I&#8217;m not fully in the &#8220;trust the process&#8221; camp&#8230;there have been enough hiccups to warrant healthy skepticism&#8230;and some *bad* decisions have been pre-empted by fate, e.g. selling the farm for Spida. </p>
<p>But the process seems to be at least theoretically grounded in being opportunistic and shrewd rather than rash and cavalier (npi) with our assets cache.  And the product on the floor reflects some success with that methodology. So being patient at this critical time is of the utmost importance. Let&#8217;s take the risk and see what we really have in these advanced metrics-wrecking assets, rather than taking a risk on a player with a known serious medical issue. That&#8217;s pretty much all I&#8217;m saying.</p>
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		By: outlier files: geo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2023 03:32:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[DFS is about to turn 30 and has had a down year stat wise...he&#039;s got 3 years left on his deal averaging 13 million per...

i think he&#039;d be a great Plan B or C target for us to go after this off-season...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DFS is about to turn 30 and has had a down year stat wise&#8230;he&#8217;s got 3 years left on his deal averaging 13 million per&#8230;</p>
<p>i think he&#8217;d be a great Plan B or C target for us to go after this off-season&#8230;</p>
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		By: Early Bird		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2023 03:27:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Grimes has put up some big games when asked to do more. The ceiling on him is higher than a lot of people think.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grimes has put up some big games when asked to do more. The ceiling on him is higher than a lot of people think.</p>
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		By: The Unbearable Knicksiness of Being		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2023 03:24:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Definitely pro tinkering at the edges with a DFS trade while keeping our powder largely dry for a guy who puts us over the top.

Also, don’t look now but we have two elite shot makers in Brunson and Randle, which gives me hope for the playoffs this year. They thrive on taking the kind of shots a playoff defense schemes to for you.I think we’ll be a tough out for any team outside Boston and Milwaukee.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Definitely pro tinkering at the edges with a DFS trade while keeping our powder largely dry for a guy who puts us over the top.</p>
<p>Also, don’t look now but we have two elite shot makers in Brunson and Randle, which gives me hope for the playoffs this year. They thrive on taking the kind of shots a playoff defense schemes to for you.I think we’ll be a tough out for any team outside Boston and Milwaukee.</p>
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		By: deeefense		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2023 02:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;I’d be calling the Nets about Mikal or Finney-Smith. &quot;

I don&#039;t know if the Nets would be willing to trade with us. Either of those players would fit, but I&#039;m not sure DFS does quite enough on offense for what we need.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I’d be calling the Nets about Mikal or Finney-Smith. &#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if the Nets would be willing to trade with us. Either of those players would fit, but I&#8217;m not sure DFS does quite enough on offense for what we need.</p>
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		By: deeefense		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2023 02:51:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;I think the rising stars game showed that when Grimes doesn’t have to guard the other team’s best scoring guard he can do well on offense. I suspect his defensive responsibilities on the Knicks affect his offense a bit.&quot;

That&#039;s probably some of it, but some of it is that Brunson and Randle are clearly the #1 and #2 options. RJ is kind of a black hole with the ball that often has more shots than our two best scorers.  That makes Grimes 4th option.  If someone (ahem Thibs) would finally discipline RJ&#039;s shot selection, I think we could get more out of Grimes and we&#039;d be a better team for it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I think the rising stars game showed that when Grimes doesn’t have to guard the other team’s best scoring guard he can do well on offense. I suspect his defensive responsibilities on the Knicks affect his offense a bit.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s probably some of it, but some of it is that Brunson and Randle are clearly the #1 and #2 options. RJ is kind of a black hole with the ball that often has more shots than our two best scorers.  That makes Grimes 4th option.  If someone (ahem Thibs) would finally discipline RJ&#8217;s shot selection, I think we could get more out of Grimes and we&#8217;d be a better team for it.</p>
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