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		By: Hubert IV		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2023 19:49:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		By: Hubert IV		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2023 19:43:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I don’t know why I thought you did live in westchester, Owen. You seem like such a Pleasantville guy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don’t know why I thought you did live in westchester, Owen. You seem like such a Pleasantville guy.</p>
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		By: JK47		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2023 17:26:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If we ended up trading three of our own first round picks for:
1. 600 minutes of Cam Reddish
2. The cap space necessary to sign Isaiah Hartenstein
3. 26 games of Josh Hart

That would be pretty embarrassing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we ended up trading three of our own first round picks for:<br />
1. 600 minutes of Cam Reddish<br />
2. The cap space necessary to sign Isaiah Hartenstein<br />
3. 26 games of Josh Hart</p>
<p>That would be pretty embarrassing.</p>
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		By: Z--man		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2023 17:19:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;An important caveat to my slightly pro-trade take: we damn well better either keep Hart on a reasonable deal or make a good trade with him this offseason. If we made this deal without such assurances, that would be moronic.&quot;

Nah, it would just be risky. In the previous thread, this FO was repeatedly characterized as &quot;risk-averse&quot; or &quot;conservative.&quot;

But that&#039;s not really true. First, the &quot;hybrid&quot; strategy is fraught with risk by definition. Second, doing things like 1) waiting to extend Mitch even though he might leave for nothing, 2) betting on Julius recovering from a down year rather than, as you put it, selling before his contract became even more of an albatross, 3) signing RJ to an extension on blind faith, 4) not pulling the trigger on an all-in trade for Spida....these kinds of things involve a lot of risk...just with a different downside.

As to this trade, it is indeed a risk, with both upside and downside. If I&#039;m judging it right now, I&#039;m not factoring in assurances that are impossible to discern. I have to ask &quot;is it a risk worth taking?&quot; just as I would ask when drafting a project with a high ceiling but a low floor vs. a sure thing with a limited ceiling. 

For now, I&#039;m far more concerned with how much he helps the team this year than worried about what will happen in the offseason with regard to this particular trade. Let&#039;s hope he plays like someone we actually WANT to be on the team beyond this year. Then I&#039;ll worry about whether we can extend him or lose him.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;An important caveat to my slightly pro-trade take: we damn well better either keep Hart on a reasonable deal or make a good trade with him this offseason. If we made this deal without such assurances, that would be moronic.&#8221;</p>
<p>Nah, it would just be risky. In the previous thread, this FO was repeatedly characterized as &#8220;risk-averse&#8221; or &#8220;conservative.&#8221;</p>
<p>But that&#8217;s not really true. First, the &#8220;hybrid&#8221; strategy is fraught with risk by definition. Second, doing things like 1) waiting to extend Mitch even though he might leave for nothing, 2) betting on Julius recovering from a down year rather than, as you put it, selling before his contract became even more of an albatross, 3) signing RJ to an extension on blind faith, 4) not pulling the trigger on an all-in trade for Spida&#8230;.these kinds of things involve a lot of risk&#8230;just with a different downside.</p>
<p>As to this trade, it is indeed a risk, with both upside and downside. If I&#8217;m judging it right now, I&#8217;m not factoring in assurances that are impossible to discern. I have to ask &#8220;is it a risk worth taking?&#8221; just as I would ask when drafting a project with a high ceiling but a low floor vs. a sure thing with a limited ceiling. </p>
<p>For now, I&#8217;m far more concerned with how much he helps the team this year than worried about what will happen in the offseason with regard to this particular trade. Let&#8217;s hope he plays like someone we actually WANT to be on the team beyond this year. Then I&#8217;ll worry about whether we can extend him or lose him.</p>
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		By: deeefense		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2023 17:17:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[“but this forum is dominated by people that think tanking (for the Knicks, in certain contexts in franchise history) is the best way to rebuild.”

Fixed&quot;

Owen, 

Context always matters. 

I think Knicks fans of a certain age became permanently emotionally damaged by the Isiah Thomas era (plus or minus a little) when we were giving away picks like Halloween candy getting much the worst of it on every deal. 

The thing I find interesting is that drafting Frank, Knox, and Obi with good lottery picks did not cure it or at least bring it back to the middle.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“but this forum is dominated by people that think tanking (for the Knicks, in certain contexts in franchise history) is the best way to rebuild.”</p>
<p>Fixed&#8221;</p>
<p>Owen, </p>
<p>Context always matters. </p>
<p>I think Knicks fans of a certain age became permanently emotionally damaged by the Isiah Thomas era (plus or minus a little) when we were giving away picks like Halloween candy getting much the worst of it on every deal. </p>
<p>The thing I find interesting is that drafting Frank, Knox, and Obi with good lottery picks did not cure it or at least bring it back to the middle.</p>
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		By: TheClashFan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2023 17:15:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My first reaction to the Hart trade was similar to that of the Mets trade for  Darin Ruff last summer, as in, &quot;Wow, that&#039;s an overpay&quot; for a useful but not  needle-moving player.

Now, the Ruff trade ended up worse as he promptly sucked the rest of the season, as Hart almost certainly will not.  I think the effort on D, rebounding and such should translate to the Knicks.  Maybe he&#039;ll regain his 3 point stroke.

If he does walk in the offseason, then, yeah, this trade gets much worse.  Couldn&#039;t a couple of 2nd rounders have gotten this done?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My first reaction to the Hart trade was similar to that of the Mets trade for  Darin Ruff last summer, as in, &#8220;Wow, that&#8217;s an overpay&#8221; for a useful but not  needle-moving player.</p>
<p>Now, the Ruff trade ended up worse as he promptly sucked the rest of the season, as Hart almost certainly will not.  I think the effort on D, rebounding and such should translate to the Knicks.  Maybe he&#8217;ll regain his 3 point stroke.</p>
<p>If he does walk in the offseason, then, yeah, this trade gets much worse.  Couldn&#8217;t a couple of 2nd rounders have gotten this done?</p>
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		By: d-mar		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2023 17:14:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You can only believe what Robert Randolph says on Friday nights]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can only believe what Robert Randolph says on Friday nights</p>
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		By: Brian Cronin		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2023 17:12:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://knickerblogger.net/2023/02/knicks-morning-news-2023-02-09/#comment-836587&quot;&gt;DRed&lt;/a&gt;.

Trade deadline thread!

https://knickerblogger.net/2023/02/09/nba-trade-deadline-thread-300-to-yuma/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://knickerblogger.net/2023/02/knicks-morning-news-2023-02-09/#comment-836587">DRed</a>.</p>
<p>Trade deadline thread!</p>
<p><a href="https://knickerblogger.net/2023/02/09/nba-trade-deadline-thread-300-to-yuma/" rel="ugc">https://knickerblogger.net/2023/02/09/nba-trade-deadline-thread-300-to-yuma/</a></p>
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		By: deeefense		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2023 17:12:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[According to Robert Randolph the Knicks are still pursuing OAG and Mikal Bridges and RJ is included in some scenarios.  They also want Seth Curry.  Nets don&#039;t want to trade with the Knicks.  I&#039;m not sure if he&#039;s a 100% or 50% troll, but it&#039;s fun hoping he&#039;s right that we are at least pursuing playing that make sense.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to Robert Randolph the Knicks are still pursuing OAG and Mikal Bridges and RJ is included in some scenarios.  They also want Seth Curry.  Nets don&#8217;t want to trade with the Knicks.  I&#8217;m not sure if he&#8217;s a 100% or 50% troll, but it&#8217;s fun hoping he&#8217;s right that we are at least pursuing playing that make sense.</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[538 gives us a .6% chance of winning the finals.  What more do you want?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>538 gives us a .6% chance of winning the finals.  What more do you want?</p>
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