You hve established without question that you believe second-hand innuendo over what someone actually says on the record. The nice thing about that is that you can create a fantasy world where anything you want to be true actually is true no matter what the evidence says. I guess you anf Kyrie have that in common, no wonder you are such a fan!

“Dislike for Kyrie seems fairly rational.”

“Sure, but when it gets to here:

I would rather pay Deuce McBride a rookie max extension than offer a single top-59 protected second rounder for Kyrie Irving.

I’m comfortable calling it irrational.”

I used an extreme scenario that had no chance of occurring to make my feelings clear. I would not want Kyrie Irving on the Knicks under any circumstances, period. There is nothing irrational about that at all. Nor is there anything irrational about you wanting him on the team. Other than the inherent irrationality of being a sports fan in general, and a Knicks fan in particular.

The Nets starters all had positive plus minuses but their bench didn’t and they lost. They could be quite good even without Irving once Durant gets back and Dinwiddie and Finney Smith are available.

I think they really have to make one more move to be an actual contender. They need a legit point guard. Whether it be VanVleet or whoever. I think you can compete with Dinwiddie as one of your guards, but he can’t be, like, the lead guard on a contender (well, unless the frontcourt were all All-Stars, of course).

Since you mention it, the data says that Kyrie has never gone to a team and made it worse. The Cavs won a championship (for which he hit the series winning shot against the best team ever); the Celtics won 55 and 53 games with him making two all star teams; the Nets came within a literal inch of making the finals.

I’m not saying he’s not a distraction, and that he’s not injury prone. But he helps the teams he plays for more than he hurts them, per the data.

Dislike for Kyrie seems fairly rational.

Sure, but when it gets to here:

I would rather pay Deuce McBride a rookie max extension than offer a single top-59 protected second rounder for Kyrie Irving.

I’m comfortable calling it irrational.

Browne Sanders said that Decker described a night out with co-workers in early 2005 at the strip club during which she got drunk and accepted a ride home from Gonsalves against her friends’ advice.

Browne Sanders said Decker told her that after she got out of Gonsalves’s car at St. John’s University, which she attended, Marbury pulled up beside them in his truck and asked if she was “getting in or not.”

Browne Sanders said that Decker believed she could not refuse Marbury because of who he was. “She considered the sex consensual because she got in the car,” Browne Sanders testified. According to Browne Sanders’s court documents, Marbury sent Decker a text message afterward that said, “I want some more of that.”

I stand by my assessment, and you’d be wise to let this one guy. But alas, you’re Z-Man.

(PS the intern testified definitlvely in court that their sexual encounter was entirely consensual. If you are going to troll the board, you don’t have to criminalize Steph by using terms like “date-raped” to do so.)

Dolan stood by Stephon Marbury when he date raped an MSG intern. He stood by Isiah Thomas when he sexually harassed Anucha Brown Sanders. He stood by Steve Mills when he tried to silence Sanders. He’s actually the perfect guy for Kyrie Irving.