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		By: ThisChicanery		</title>
		<link>https://knickerblogger.net/2022/12/knicks-morning-news-2022-12-14/#comment-827466</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2022 00:39:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This Cam vs Grimes argument is bizarre mostly because no one on the pro-Grimes side is arguing about how hard he hustles.  Grimes certainly does look like he&#039;s trying harder than Cam out there but, more importantly, Grimes is clearly a better player than Cam out there.  Cam has played solid enough defense this year and will make the occasional move on offense that maybe shows his potential but he just isn&#039;t as good as Grimes is today: https://stathead.com/basketball/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&#038;sum=0&#038;player_id1=grimequ01&#038;p1yrfrom=2023&#038;player_id2=reddica01&#038;p2yrfrom=2023

Reddish gets slightly more steals and blocks but every other traditional and advanced stat favors Grimes (and there&#039;s more to playing defense than steals and blocks).  And this is despite the fact that Reddish is both older and has played in the NBA 2 more years than Grimes.

This reminds me of when children on /r/NBA liked to argue that Kyrie Irving was a more talented basketball player than Steph Curry because he had more dribble moves.  It&#039;s cool that he can do this fancy stuff that other players can&#039;t but none of that matters if it doesn&#039;t make him a more effective player and Kyrie isn&#039;t more effective than Curry and Cam isn&#039;t more effective than Grimes.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This Cam vs Grimes argument is bizarre mostly because no one on the pro-Grimes side is arguing about how hard he hustles.  Grimes certainly does look like he&#8217;s trying harder than Cam out there but, more importantly, Grimes is clearly a better player than Cam out there.  Cam has played solid enough defense this year and will make the occasional move on offense that maybe shows his potential but he just isn&#8217;t as good as Grimes is today: <a href="https://stathead.com/basketball/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&#038;sum=0&#038;player_id1=grimequ01&#038;p1yrfrom=2023&#038;player_id2=reddica01&#038;p2yrfrom=2023" rel="nofollow ugc">https://stathead.com/basketball/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&#038;sum=0&#038;player_id1=grimequ01&#038;p1yrfrom=2023&#038;player_id2=reddica01&#038;p2yrfrom=2023</a></p>
<p>Reddish gets slightly more steals and blocks but every other traditional and advanced stat favors Grimes (and there&#8217;s more to playing defense than steals and blocks).  And this is despite the fact that Reddish is both older and has played in the NBA 2 more years than Grimes.</p>
<p>This reminds me of when children on /r/NBA liked to argue that Kyrie Irving was a more talented basketball player than Steph Curry because he had more dribble moves.  It&#8217;s cool that he can do this fancy stuff that other players can&#8217;t but none of that matters if it doesn&#8217;t make him a more effective player and Kyrie isn&#8217;t more effective than Curry and Cam isn&#8217;t more effective than Grimes.</p>
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		By: Knick fan not in NJ		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2022 00:25:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I don’t think Grimes starting and Reddish being benched is all about who is better or who has more potential (although I do think Grimes is better at the moment). The Knicks’ lineup needed what Grimes has more than it needed what Reddish has, so Grimes got the opportunity.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don’t think Grimes starting and Reddish being benched is all about who is better or who has more potential (although I do think Grimes is better at the moment). The Knicks’ lineup needed what Grimes has more than it needed what Reddish has, so Grimes got the opportunity.</p>
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		By: Owen		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2022 00:12:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[JB is warming up but is a game time decision]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JB is warming up but is a game time decision</p>
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		By: JK47		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2022 00:08:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m well aware of David Eckstein Syndrome but that doesn&#039;t seem to be what&#039;s going on here with Quentin Grimes and Cam Reddish. The guy who RUNS OUT EVERY GROUND BALL REALLY HARD doesn&#039;t help you all that much if he&#039;s not a good player, but a guy who makes good decisions instead of dumb ones is a guy I&#039;d rather have on my team than the guy who makes dumb decisions instead of smart ones. I don&#039;t think you can lump Basketball IQ into the &quot;runs out groundballs&quot; category.

Cam is one of those guys where you have to squint at him really hard, and give him lots of credit for non-boxscore things to turn him into a good player in your mind. I&#039;m not saying those players don&#039;t exist, but I am saying Cam Reddish is not one of those players. 

That&#039;s not to say that Quentin Grimes is a blue chip prospect, because there are flaws in Grimes&#039; game too: he never gets to the free throw line, for example. But it seems like Cam Truthers are the new Frank Truthers. You squares just can&#039;t seeee it, maaaaan.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m well aware of David Eckstein Syndrome but that doesn&#8217;t seem to be what&#8217;s going on here with Quentin Grimes and Cam Reddish. The guy who RUNS OUT EVERY GROUND BALL REALLY HARD doesn&#8217;t help you all that much if he&#8217;s not a good player, but a guy who makes good decisions instead of dumb ones is a guy I&#8217;d rather have on my team than the guy who makes dumb decisions instead of smart ones. I don&#8217;t think you can lump Basketball IQ into the &#8220;runs out groundballs&#8221; category.</p>
<p>Cam is one of those guys where you have to squint at him really hard, and give him lots of credit for non-boxscore things to turn him into a good player in your mind. I&#8217;m not saying those players don&#8217;t exist, but I am saying Cam Reddish is not one of those players. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s not to say that Quentin Grimes is a blue chip prospect, because there are flaws in Grimes&#8217; game too: he never gets to the free throw line, for example. But it seems like Cam Truthers are the new Frank Truthers. You squares just can&#8217;t seeee it, maaaaan.</p>
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		By: The Unbearable Knicksiness of Being		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2022 00:03:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Brunson playing tonight!!]]></description>
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		By: ramahawk		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2022 23:37:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[And no, I&#039;m not going back on my modest approval of Cam&#039;s game - he has been more consistent this year, with fewer gaffes on D. I don&#039;t think he&#039;s a plus player and don&#039;t have any confidence he&#039;ll ever be as good as Grimes, but he&#039;s been a lot better than RJ. What I was advocating for, very strongly this summer, was trading RJ before his extension came up. 

Instead we extended him early. Fucking brain-damaged. 
Even if RJ were good, we don&#039;t need him with Julius and Brunson on the court. They are far superior offensive players, and Cam and Grimes are better complements to their game.

Edit: I really hope RJ gets it together and becomes a consistent plus player. I don&#039;t see it; I see total inconsistency in his shot, slow feet, no explosiveness, an unwillingness or inability to pass, lack of attention and anticipation on defense. But it would be great if he got it together and contributed as much as Grimes!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And no, I&#8217;m not going back on my modest approval of Cam&#8217;s game &#8211; he has been more consistent this year, with fewer gaffes on D. I don&#8217;t think he&#8217;s a plus player and don&#8217;t have any confidence he&#8217;ll ever be as good as Grimes, but he&#8217;s been a lot better than RJ. What I was advocating for, very strongly this summer, was trading RJ before his extension came up. </p>
<p>Instead we extended him early. Fucking brain-damaged.<br />
Even if RJ were good, we don&#8217;t need him with Julius and Brunson on the court. They are far superior offensive players, and Cam and Grimes are better complements to their game.</p>
<p>Edit: I really hope RJ gets it together and becomes a consistent plus player. I don&#8217;t see it; I see total inconsistency in his shot, slow feet, no explosiveness, an unwillingness or inability to pass, lack of attention and anticipation on defense. But it would be great if he got it together and contributed as much as Grimes!</p>
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		By: ramahawk		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2022 23:34:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As Early Bird said, Grimes is pretty straight-ahead on his drives, and that&#039;s a limitation. But his passing is good; his court vision is good. His hops are great and he gets off the ground quickly, faster than anyone on the team but Mitch. His shot is above average, and his lateral speed and general court awareness, along with his motor, means he&#039;s above average on D as well. It isn&#039;t an accident that we started playing better when he got healthy and began starting. 

Does he have &quot;star&quot; potential? Who knows. Maybe E is right and he&#039;s limited. On the other hand, HE&#039;S ALREADY GOOD. I would much rather have him increase his usage (which I think would not be hard for him, even before he develops &quot;wiggle&quot;) than see RJ or Cam at their levels.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As Early Bird said, Grimes is pretty straight-ahead on his drives, and that&#8217;s a limitation. But his passing is good; his court vision is good. His hops are great and he gets off the ground quickly, faster than anyone on the team but Mitch. His shot is above average, and his lateral speed and general court awareness, along with his motor, means he&#8217;s above average on D as well. It isn&#8217;t an accident that we started playing better when he got healthy and began starting. </p>
<p>Does he have &#8220;star&#8221; potential? Who knows. Maybe E is right and he&#8217;s limited. On the other hand, HE&#8217;S ALREADY GOOD. I would much rather have him increase his usage (which I think would not be hard for him, even before he develops &#8220;wiggle&#8221;) than see RJ or Cam at their levels.</p>
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		By: Nicos		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2022 23:30:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I don’t think Thibs has some unconscious bias that makes him prefer Grimes- Grimes just executes his game plan better. It’s as simple as that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don’t think Thibs has some unconscious bias that makes him prefer Grimes- Grimes just executes his game plan better. It’s as simple as that.</p>
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		By: ramahawk		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2022 23:29:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m amazed people engage with E. He&#039;s a classic troll. I eviscerated his take that RJ was better than Grimes back in July and never heard from him. GRIMES WAS BETTER IN HIS FIRST YEAR THAN RJ IN HIS THIRD. It&#039;s not only obvious to the eye test - which, by the way, tells me that Grimes has elite athleticism, far more of a fast-twitch athlete than Cam - but even his numbers clearly put him at RJ&#039;s level as a rookie. 

This game is simple: get as many possessions as you can and score as efficiently as possible with them; keep the opponent from doing the same. That plays out in myriad complex ways, but in most that can be measured, GRIMES IS BETTER THAN CAM TODAY. GRIMES IS BETTER THAN RJ TODAY. The one area where RJ is better is his shamelessness - Grimes doesn&#039;t waste nearly as many possessions as RJ does. 

But RJ and Cam went to Duke. RJ was drafted third. They get crazy selection bias, where trolls like E dismiss Grimes as Hustlebunny 2.0. Ah, no, fam.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m amazed people engage with E. He&#8217;s a classic troll. I eviscerated his take that RJ was better than Grimes back in July and never heard from him. GRIMES WAS BETTER IN HIS FIRST YEAR THAN RJ IN HIS THIRD. It&#8217;s not only obvious to the eye test &#8211; which, by the way, tells me that Grimes has elite athleticism, far more of a fast-twitch athlete than Cam &#8211; but even his numbers clearly put him at RJ&#8217;s level as a rookie. </p>
<p>This game is simple: get as many possessions as you can and score as efficiently as possible with them; keep the opponent from doing the same. That plays out in myriad complex ways, but in most that can be measured, GRIMES IS BETTER THAN CAM TODAY. GRIMES IS BETTER THAN RJ TODAY. The one area where RJ is better is his shamelessness &#8211; Grimes doesn&#8217;t waste nearly as many possessions as RJ does. </p>
<p>But RJ and Cam went to Duke. RJ was drafted third. They get crazy selection bias, where trolls like E dismiss Grimes as Hustlebunny 2.0. Ah, no, fam.</p>
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		By: Owen		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2022 23:25:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[How often do I write a long post only to find TNFH said it better and shorter. 

Veteran poster loses edge as young neophyte overtakes him….]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How often do I write a long post only to find TNFH said it better and shorter. </p>
<p>Veteran poster loses edge as young neophyte overtakes him….</p>
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