Enough said. RJ is not them. The sooner Leon/Thibs realize this, – the better it is for everyone.

RJ needs his minutes cut significantly and asked to learn to be more efficient on both sides of the floor to remain as a starter. Also, take away his green light to force shots. Not every shot is a good shot for him as he doesnt have the athletic ability to make the difficult in your face type shots. Lastly, tell him to lose 10 pounds of “bulk” by end of the season and 20 before next training camp.

the list of guys of who had been at one point perennial KB whipping boys for being high volume mediocre efficiency guys is quite long.. and it includes the likes of donovan mitchell… jaylen brown… devin booker… and to a lesser extent guys like deaaron fox and jamaal murray coming up very recently… i know this because i was likely leading the charge in being their #1 critic….

So let’s compare their age 21 seasons: https://stathead.com/tiny/pH4lQ

RJ has the worst 2P%, 3P%, FT%, steals, blocks, and 2nd worst assists. He has the worst eFG%, TS%, BPM (2nd worst OBPM and DBPM), and VORP. And while all of the other players had nearly league average or above eFG+ (ranging from 96 to 104) and TS+ (ranging from 96-101, RJ’s were 88 and 90.

RJ’s age 21 season was far behind those players age 21 season and I’m sure we can say the same at the end of this year about his age 22 season.

Sorry, no Bruce love from me. I grew up in the 70s/80s, listening to punk and college/indie rock. The folks that’d laugh at me for listening to nobodies like the Pixies, Sonic Youth, Red Hot Chili Peppers, the Smiths, etc. tended to either listen to Bruce/GNR or heavy metal. So I have a hard time liking any of these, especially how much they filled the airwaves at the time.

We’re a lot more alike than i thought. 😉 I just remember music from 12yo and on, so it’s mid-80s and early 90s for me. Punk rock, punk hardcore and grunge leading the way, but everything alt-rock was on my list too. All this to say, i’m not a Bruce fan, but i like several of his songs, not at all in the same category of GNR or heavy metal from that time, they were all super pretentious, was the feeling i’d always get, always trying to write “stadium songs” and feeling like they were the best in the world. Don’t like that at all in music, i like people that even if they’re among the best, they always try to write from the soul and don’t try to chase success/fame with each song they write/compose. And btw, you couldn’t torture me if i had to listen to Bruce for several hours, whereas with GNR i’d reveal all the secrets i know pretty fast. 😀 One of these days, we have to trade playing lists, Mike. 😉 And ClashFan too, he comes from the same background, if i’m not mistaken.

So I get to be the one to change Nicos’ whole perception of the song by telling him it’s broken heroes not super heroes? Cool.

Kind of like the Knicks, right? We’re always waiting for superstars and are only “jammed” with broken stars!

RJ could turn it around… but he’s not close. He needs to shoot around 43% from 3 to get to league average TS%. This is the sort of thing we clowned Frank for.

All that said, RJ is still having his best year (ignoring his way too good shooting in empty arenas). If RJ improves in the 2nd half of the year, we could be happier with his progress. Maybe I’ll take the sick games out of the sample & look at his numbers then.

He just has so far to go… and he’s losing us games now. I’d like him more if he got fewer minutes.

he sometimes goes years with “nothing.” He said kind of tongue-in-cheek “I’m not sure if I’ve written my last song…” to suggest that he just doesn’t know when the next song worth writing will come to him.

thanks for sharing that z-man…wow, that’s really surprising…

ha, thinking of him and clyde as young folks thumbing through their dictionaries and thesauruses searching for more words to express themselves…

Sorry, no Bruce love from me. I grew up in the 70s/80s, listening to punk and college/indie rock. The folks that’d laugh at me for listening to nobodies like the Pixies, Sonic Youth, Red Hot Chili Peppers, the Smiths, etc. tended to either listen to Bruce/GNR or heavy metal. So I have a hard time liking any of these, especially how much they filled the airwaves at the time.

Yeah, it’s interesting, a guy like Bruce with the extreme heart-on-sleeve hyper-sincere kind of persona is definitely at odds with the ethos of punk rock in a lot of ways. I have lots of musician friends who came up in the post-punk era who don’t really relate to him for that reason.

But it’s telling that he wrote “Hungry Heart” with The Ramones in mind, because I think he was inspired by a lot of the same music that inspired them, some of the same early rock and roll and girl group albums. The Ramones had a more rude and crude way of putting that music over, and didn’t have the same kind of conventional talent that Springsteen has, but to me it all comes from that same “rock and roll will save you” kind of place. It’s almost quaint to think about now, how much the idea of “rock and roll” meant at one time.