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		By: Owen		</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wrong thread</p>
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		By: frank		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2022 12:04:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If RJ and Randle can&#039;t shoot, then the starting lineup is toast, full stop. There is a grand total of one plus defender in that lineup (Mitch). There&#039;s one average defender in RJ.  And 3 minus defenders in Brunson, Randle, and Fournier.  So let me check my math:

3 non-shooters PLUS
3 below-average defenders PLUS
1 head coach who insists on playing this lineup for the most minutes in the league EQUALS
exactly what we&#039;re seeing here.

There might be enough sheer individual talent on this team to beat bad teams, but we&#039;ve gotten our asses handed to us by any good team whenever that good team decides to start trying.

That starting lineup is now -8.8 per 100 possessions even with the addition of Brunson.

Here&#039;s an interesting (small sample size) exercise:

Lineups with Fournier + Randle: -8 net rating (331 poss)
Lineups with neither Fournier nor Randle:  +6 net rating (215 poss)
Lineups with Fournier but no Randle: +17.4 net rating (only 22 poss)
Lineups with Randle but no Fournier: +16.6 net rating (138 poss)

Of course out of the 4 possible lineups here, the one Thibs plays the most is the worst one.

Trading out Reggie Bullock for Fournier (especially considering the contract) has turned into one of the most disastrous decisions this FO has made.

It is honestly time for Julius to become a 28-30 minute player and Obi to take the rest of the minutes. And for Grimes (or Quickley!) to enter the starting lineup.  Cam has potential but still too many boneheaded plays.  You can&#039;t have 3 nonshooters and 3 non defenders at the same time.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If RJ and Randle can&#8217;t shoot, then the starting lineup is toast, full stop. There is a grand total of one plus defender in that lineup (Mitch). There&#8217;s one average defender in RJ.  And 3 minus defenders in Brunson, Randle, and Fournier.  So let me check my math:</p>
<p>3 non-shooters PLUS<br />
3 below-average defenders PLUS<br />
1 head coach who insists on playing this lineup for the most minutes in the league EQUALS<br />
exactly what we&#8217;re seeing here.</p>
<p>There might be enough sheer individual talent on this team to beat bad teams, but we&#8217;ve gotten our asses handed to us by any good team whenever that good team decides to start trying.</p>
<p>That starting lineup is now -8.8 per 100 possessions even with the addition of Brunson.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s an interesting (small sample size) exercise:</p>
<p>Lineups with Fournier + Randle: -8 net rating (331 poss)<br />
Lineups with neither Fournier nor Randle:  +6 net rating (215 poss)<br />
Lineups with Fournier but no Randle: +17.4 net rating (only 22 poss)<br />
Lineups with Randle but no Fournier: +16.6 net rating (138 poss)</p>
<p>Of course out of the 4 possible lineups here, the one Thibs plays the most is the worst one.</p>
<p>Trading out Reggie Bullock for Fournier (especially considering the contract) has turned into one of the most disastrous decisions this FO has made.</p>
<p>It is honestly time for Julius to become a 28-30 minute player and Obi to take the rest of the minutes. And for Grimes (or Quickley!) to enter the starting lineup.  Cam has potential but still too many boneheaded plays.  You can&#8217;t have 3 nonshooters and 3 non defenders at the same time.</p>
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		By: BernieErnie		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2022 11:50:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Only one game, early in the season, but I am keeping score...this loss is 100% on Thibs.  A collapse like that at home with a healthy roster?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only one game, early in the season, but I am keeping score&#8230;this loss is 100% on Thibs.  A collapse like that at home with a healthy roster?</p>
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		By: Owen		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Owen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2022 10:50:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[No booing. I think the crowd was shellshocked.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No booing. I think the crowd was shellshocked.</p>
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		By: pepper		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2022 05:26:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Beat writers already smelling blood in the water
https://nypost.com/2022/11/02/knicks-need-to-show-more-fight-before-season-spirals-out-of-control/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beat writers already smelling blood in the water<br />
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		By: outlier files: geo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2022 05:05:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[well, that was less than good...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well, that was less than good&#8230;</p>
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		By: Donnie Walsh		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Donnie Walsh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2022 04:41:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[***Maybe we shoulda traded for Dejounte***

Landry Fields, the gift that keeps on not being a gift at all.

(Btw, *we* didn’t try to trade for Murray when he became available because we were neck deep in Brunson and couldn’t pivot, even though a breakout young all star pg who is basically earthbound Westbrook but with elite defense is exactly the kind of guy a team like Rose’s Knicks NEEDS to try to find. Dolan’s Razor, yet again.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>***Maybe we shoulda traded for Dejounte***</p>
<p>Landry Fields, the gift that keeps on not being a gift at all.</p>
<p>(Btw, *we* didn’t try to trade for Murray when he became available because we were neck deep in Brunson and couldn’t pivot, even though a breakout young all star pg who is basically earthbound Westbrook but with elite defense is exactly the kind of guy a team like Rose’s Knicks NEEDS to try to find. Dolan’s Razor, yet again.)</p>
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		By: ess-dog		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2022 04:13:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Quickley’s passing, rebounding, and defense have all improved, which is nice to see, but his outside shooting has become comical. He not only takes dumb shots too often now, he often misses badly. It’s seems like he used to be a better 3pt and ft shooter. Maybe he just needs more reps?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quickley’s passing, rebounding, and defense have all improved, which is nice to see, but his outside shooting has become comical. He not only takes dumb shots too often now, he often misses badly. It’s seems like he used to be a better 3pt and ft shooter. Maybe he just needs more reps?</p>
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		By: Bruno Almeida		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2022 04:10:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s year 4 for RJ and he still has the same issues he&#039;s had since his rookie year, he has shown zero actual progression outside of what, some better effort on defense and a slight increase in FT%  so far which is barely meaningful as he only gets to the line about 4 times a game anyway?

I know he&#039;s 22, but having him sign a major extension and that&#039;s how he starts the season... we keep hearing that he&#039;s a hard worker and has the right attitude and tries to improve but at some point it&#039;s got to translate to on court production.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s year 4 for RJ and he still has the same issues he&#8217;s had since his rookie year, he has shown zero actual progression outside of what, some better effort on defense and a slight increase in FT%  so far which is barely meaningful as he only gets to the line about 4 times a game anyway?</p>
<p>I know he&#8217;s 22, but having him sign a major extension and that&#8217;s how he starts the season&#8230; we keep hearing that he&#8217;s a hard worker and has the right attitude and tries to improve but at some point it&#8217;s got to translate to on court production.</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[Fat Lever was 6&#039;3&quot; and had 22 in a game...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fat Lever was 6&#8217;3&#8243; and had 22 in a game&#8230;</p>
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