Comments on: Knicks Morning News (2022.10.09)

By: Z--man

Z--man — Mon, 10 Oct 2022 05:00:41 +0000

“Rose had two offseasons to lock Mitch up to a very team-friendly deal, passed twice, and ended up paying him $70MM. I don’t think this points to him being very savvy.”

It’s 4-years, $60Mil, with descending numbers that pay him $13mil in his last year. Did one of Mitch’s many agents ask for a contract extension on very team-friendly and get rebuffed? I hadn’t heard anything…

By: Z--man

Z--man — Mon, 10 Oct 2022 04:50:41 +0000

As a courtesy if you’re actually being serious: My position since last offseason has been that the FO was making a perfectly logical decision to wait until they were sure that a) his foot was healed, b) he actually showed improvement as a 4th year player.

Some felt it was insane to risk losing him for nothing and that he should have been locked up right away, broken foot, injury-proneness, foul issues, etc. be damned. I disagreed and sided with management.

As the season progressed and Mitch was both healthy and improved, some lamented ad nauseum that he would likely leave in free agency. My position was that since the FO took the risk and Mitch made good, it was up to him whether he wanted to come back or not, and if he didn’t, no big deal because we could relatively easily find a reasonable adequate replacement for less than what he would command as a UFA. Maybe not as good as Mitch, but probably as good or better value.

Lo and behold, turns out he wanted to stay, and for pretty much the same money we would have gotten him for at the beginning of the season. The fears about him leaving for a much better offer than we could give him were totally unfounded. And had he left for close to the same money, we’d be talking about our new starting C, Isaiah Hartenstein, who might actually be as good or better at half the price, with Sims as a serviceable backup on a minimum deal.

By: Hubert IV

Hubert IV — Mon, 10 Oct 2022 04:46:02 +0000

Rose had two offseasons to lock Mitch up to a very team-friendly deal, passed twice, and ended up paying him $70MM. I don’t think this points to him being very savvy.

By: DRed

DRed — Mon, 10 Oct 2022 04:38:37 +0000

The important things today were the Jets destroyed the Dolphins and I bet the Cowboys moneyline

By: JK47

JK47 — Mon, 10 Oct 2022 04:38:24 +0000

All right, fair enough. Although by your logic it still seems like the smart play would have been to let him walk, but you’re right, that’s not really what you’re talking about.

By: Z--man

Z--man — Mon, 10 Oct 2022 04:33:38 +0000

“JK47 says:
October 10, 2022 at 00:25
Z-Man, I legitimately don’t get your point.

If you can just find Mitchell Robinsons anywhere, why would you want to re-sign him? Doesn’t that make it a bad move? What am I not understanding correctly?”

That’s not really the question, though. It’s whether it was dumb to risk losing him for nothing by not locking him up prior to the season. Are you just being antagonistic or have you actually been following the conversation for the last year? Because your overly simplistic question implies the former.

By: JK47

JK47 — Mon, 10 Oct 2022 04:25:08 +0000

Z-Man, I legitimately don’t get your point.

If you can just find Mitchell Robinsons anywhere, why would you want to re-sign him? Doesn’t that make it a bad move? What am I not understanding correctly?

By: Z--man

Z--man — Mon, 10 Oct 2022 04:19:12 +0000

“JK47 says:
October 9, 2022 at 23:44
Wait a minute, you can find players like Mitch on the scrap heap for nothing, yet… it was smart that they re-signed Mitch? Which is it, are they smart or dumb?”

sigh…

By: Hubert IV

Hubert IV — Mon, 10 Oct 2022 04:01:39 +0000

It was a much bigger mistake to trade Tim Hardaway for Jerian Grant then it was to sign him back. The 4 year, $71MM offer sheet actually panned out.

By: Z--man

Z--man — Mon, 10 Oct 2022 04:00:47 +0000

“JK47 says:
October 9, 2022 at 23:48
The Mets had a bunch of players who are not real likely to repeat their great seasons. Lindor racked up 7 WAR, and Nimmo and McNeil both had 5 WAR.

This was an “everything went right” season that collapsed into ashes the moment NYM had to play important games. Not very encouraging for the future, although I guess Uncle Steve will just buy whatever pieces we need.”

I guess that’s the hope. But to be fair, the season overall went much better than I expected…it just stings that it ended with such a thud. That ATL series was very telling, though. They are miles ahead of us, and with a very young core. It sucks to be in the same division with them.