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		By: Early Bird		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Sep 2022 01:01:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[KB 2.0 Now in Technicolor]]></description>
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		By: KBA		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Sep 2022 00:52:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Agree: bullet dodged. 

Friday Night Non Sequitur: Hasn’t it been too long since you listened to Maxwell’s Urban Hang Suite from start to finish? Treat yourself this holiday weekend and recall the days of Knicks 1996/97 when John Starks was Sixth Man of the Year and the Knicks made the playoffs for the 10th(!) consecutive year.

Enjoy the weekend, KB.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree: bullet dodged. </p>
<p>Friday Night Non Sequitur: Hasn’t it been too long since you listened to Maxwell’s Urban Hang Suite from start to finish? Treat yourself this holiday weekend and recall the days of Knicks 1996/97 when John Starks was Sixth Man of the Year and the Knicks made the playoffs for the 10th(!) consecutive year.</p>
<p>Enjoy the weekend, KB.</p>
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		By: Knick fan not in NJ		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Sep 2022 00:42:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You don’t really have to know the deals that were offered to know how high the price would have been.  It would have been something like what Cleveland traded — Three unprotected firsts, two first round swaps and three young useful players.  Mitchell didn’t fill a critical need for us basketball wise unless that need was for a “star” without regard for fit or price. He would have probably have made us better, but not great. I’m happy we passed to.  And I agree with what Tommy aberré said.  The talking heads were like “of course the Knicks will overpay, even though they shouldn’t” and then suddenly switched to “they should have done the deal”]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You don’t really have to know the deals that were offered to know how high the price would have been.  It would have been something like what Cleveland traded — Three unprotected firsts, two first round swaps and three young useful players.  Mitchell didn’t fill a critical need for us basketball wise unless that need was for a “star” without regard for fit or price. He would have probably have made us better, but not great. I’m happy we passed to.  And I agree with what Tommy aberré said.  The talking heads were like “of course the Knicks will overpay, even though they shouldn’t” and then suddenly switched to “they should have done the deal”</p>
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		By: deeefense		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Sep 2022 00:05:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think we dodged a bullet.  

I’m not sure what to believe in terms of what was offered and what was asked, but personally I didn’t see a single deal I would have signed off on.  If some of the supposed deals we are offered are true, it lowers my estimation of our current management.  

I’m all for trying to improve the team.  Im even willing to overpay a bit in some circumstances.  Heck, I think reasonable people might say we overpaid for Brunson.  But IMO there’s a huge difference between overpaying a bit in salary to get a very good player that fills a critical need and overpaying for a one way player that’s a very poor fit defensively. 

At no time did I ever want Mitchell. The only reason I would ever traded for him was if we stole him and I could get a free look and easily flip him when/if it didn’t work out.  Nothing about this deal made sense to me. 

I’m happy with this team.  I don’t really care if we make the playoffs this year or not.  If we don’t, we have our picks and some extras to try make something else happen.  We are young, better than last year, still positioned well to improve, and I like almost all of our players.  The only tweaks I would make would be moving on from Fournier to make room for Grimes to strengthen the defense and move on from Randle just for my sanity.  If we can do it now without surrendering picks that’s fine. If not, start Grimes, play Fournier off the bench, and try to improve Randle’s value for a few months.  

Let’s go Knicks.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we dodged a bullet.  </p>
<p>I’m not sure what to believe in terms of what was offered and what was asked, but personally I didn’t see a single deal I would have signed off on.  If some of the supposed deals we are offered are true, it lowers my estimation of our current management.  </p>
<p>I’m all for trying to improve the team.  Im even willing to overpay a bit in some circumstances.  Heck, I think reasonable people might say we overpaid for Brunson.  But IMO there’s a huge difference between overpaying a bit in salary to get a very good player that fills a critical need and overpaying for a one way player that’s a very poor fit defensively. </p>
<p>At no time did I ever want Mitchell. The only reason I would ever traded for him was if we stole him and I could get a free look and easily flip him when/if it didn’t work out.  Nothing about this deal made sense to me. </p>
<p>I’m happy with this team.  I don’t really care if we make the playoffs this year or not.  If we don’t, we have our picks and some extras to try make something else happen.  We are young, better than last year, still positioned well to improve, and I like almost all of our players.  The only tweaks I would make would be moving on from Fournier to make room for Grimes to strengthen the defense and move on from Randle just for my sanity.  If we can do it now without surrendering picks that’s fine. If not, start Grimes, play Fournier off the bench, and try to improve Randle’s value for a few months.  </p>
<p>Let’s go Knicks.</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2022 23:36:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[These MFers better start Grimes if he was off limits in a trade for a top-25 NBA player, that’s all I have to say.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These MFers better start Grimes if he was off limits in a trade for a top-25 NBA player, that’s all I have to say.</p>
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		By: Alan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2022 23:16:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think something may have gotten a bit scrambled in the Woj reporting. It feels like that offer with more kids and more picks may have been Ainge&#039;s ask — maybe even his initial ask at the start of negotiations — rather than what Leon was offering at the end. I don&#039;t know. On Zach Lowe&#039;s podcast with Bobby Marks, Zach said this may be a situation where so many offers were made in such a short time that even the people negotiating may not be entirely clear on what was and was not on the table. 

I&#039;m not ready to sing a ballad of Leon Rose, either. What he does with the rest of this offseason will be somewhat telling, but he&#039;s just so damn hard to read. My hope is that he takes further steps to Thibs-proof the roster by getting rid of some combination of Randle, Fournier, and Cam (it does not sound like DRose is going anywhere, unfortunately) and just accepts whatever fate Brunson + Kids gets him.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think something may have gotten a bit scrambled in the Woj reporting. It feels like that offer with more kids and more picks may have been Ainge&#8217;s ask — maybe even his initial ask at the start of negotiations — rather than what Leon was offering at the end. I don&#8217;t know. On Zach Lowe&#8217;s podcast with Bobby Marks, Zach said this may be a situation where so many offers were made in such a short time that even the people negotiating may not be entirely clear on what was and was not on the table. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not ready to sing a ballad of Leon Rose, either. What he does with the rest of this offseason will be somewhat telling, but he&#8217;s just so damn hard to read. My hope is that he takes further steps to Thibs-proof the roster by getting rid of some combination of Randle, Fournier, and Cam (it does not sound like DRose is going anywhere, unfortunately) and just accepts whatever fate Brunson + Kids gets him.</p>
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		By: Knick fan not in NJ		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2022 23:05:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mike, clicking on the time and date worked!  Thanks very much.   Cybersoze, yes I’m on mobile.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike, clicking on the time and date worked!  Thanks very much.   Cybersoze, yes I’m on mobile.</p>
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		By: KBA		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2022 22:47:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Geo, haha. I love &quot;KB Pro,&quot; but I can barely do my son&#039;s 6th grade math, so ... I will remain the eternal student ;-)

I too hope Evian and Randle start off hot. I&#039;m still sipping pernod on L&#039;Isle de Fournier, so I&#039;m genuinely happy he&#039;s still around (sorry Cyber). And Julius must know by now that dervish-ball is no bueno, so he may surprise all of us. The (boring) post game mantra from Thibs and all the guys last year was, &quot;Take the right shot.&quot; Now with Brunson, the &quot;right&quot; shot should be more apparent, even to Julius. Can&#039;t wait for the games.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Geo, haha. I love &#8220;KB Pro,&#8221; but I can barely do my son&#8217;s 6th grade math, so &#8230; I will remain the eternal student 😉</p>
<p>I too hope Evian and Randle start off hot. I&#8217;m still sipping pernod on L&#8217;Isle de Fournier, so I&#8217;m genuinely happy he&#8217;s still around (sorry Cyber). And Julius must know by now that dervish-ball is no bueno, so he may surprise all of us. The (boring) post game mantra from Thibs and all the guys last year was, &#8220;Take the right shot.&#8221; Now with Brunson, the &#8220;right&#8221; shot should be more apparent, even to Julius. Can&#8217;t wait for the games.</p>
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		By: Space Invader		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2022 22:46:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt; over the next seven drafts, the Jazz hold the rights to 13 unprotected first-round picks (incl 6 of their own), as well as a 2026 pick swap with the Timberwolves and two more pick swaps with the Cavs in years that are still to be determined. That’s quite a haul. And there are several players on the roster, including veterans like Mike Conley Jr. and Jordan Clarkson, who could be flipped for additional picks as the roster turns over towards youth. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

They also picked up THT, Malik Beasley, Walker Kessler, Leondro Bolmaro, Colin Sexton, Lauri Markanen, and Ochai Agbaji.

That&#039;s not a bad result for a team we were told would have to accept our offer because they had no leverage.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> over the next seven drafts, the Jazz hold the rights to 13 unprotected first-round picks (incl 6 of their own), as well as a 2026 pick swap with the Timberwolves and two more pick swaps with the Cavs in years that are still to be determined. That’s quite a haul. And there are several players on the roster, including veterans like Mike Conley Jr. and Jordan Clarkson, who could be flipped for additional picks as the roster turns over towards youth. </p></blockquote>
<p>They also picked up THT, Malik Beasley, Walker Kessler, Leondro Bolmaro, Colin Sexton, Lauri Markanen, and Ochai Agbaji.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s not a bad result for a team we were told would have to accept our offer because they had no leverage.</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2022 22:16:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[that woj report of the summer package including at least rj, obi, mitch and three unprotected firsts has to make you at least a bit reluctant to laud the front office for their value discipline.  i&#039;m not saying you can&#039;t given leon a head nod for at least playing hardball.  perhaps a bizarre, murdock from the a-team peripatetic brand of hardball, but hardball nonetheless.  it may have even pissed ainge off into ultimately accepting a worse offer, depending on how he feels in his heart about collin and lauri.    i kind of suspect that both utah and msg lost the deal in the narrow sense that there was a mutual trade they both would have preferred to the deal that happened.  but danny milked early and leon played hard to get late.  then danny got pissy and went vegan.  future unprotected and swaps from a team with mobley and garland in tow are just a lot less valuable than from a much bigger question mark like us.  

whether that deal would have been a good thing is a different story.  some of the rumors seem like bullets dodged, others i would have been tempted.   none were homeruns.  time to pivot to complaining about the kiddo minutes.  the thing about the east being tough is no myth.  atlanta and toronto are really strong 7-8 type seeds, if that&#039;s what they are.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that woj report of the summer package including at least rj, obi, mitch and three unprotected firsts has to make you at least a bit reluctant to laud the front office for their value discipline.  i&#8217;m not saying you can&#8217;t given leon a head nod for at least playing hardball.  perhaps a bizarre, murdock from the a-team peripatetic brand of hardball, but hardball nonetheless.  it may have even pissed ainge off into ultimately accepting a worse offer, depending on how he feels in his heart about collin and lauri.    i kind of suspect that both utah and msg lost the deal in the narrow sense that there was a mutual trade they both would have preferred to the deal that happened.  but danny milked early and leon played hard to get late.  then danny got pissy and went vegan.  future unprotected and swaps from a team with mobley and garland in tow are just a lot less valuable than from a much bigger question mark like us.  </p>
<p>whether that deal would have been a good thing is a different story.  some of the rumors seem like bullets dodged, others i would have been tempted.   none were homeruns.  time to pivot to complaining about the kiddo minutes.  the thing about the east being tough is no myth.  atlanta and toronto are really strong 7-8 type seeds, if that&#8217;s what they are.</p>
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