Comments on: Knicks Morning News (2022.09.12)

By: Brian Cronin

Brian Cronin — Tue, 13 Sep 2022 15:32:13 +0000

(1) Ray Allen – Trade
(2) Kevin Garnett – Trade
(3) Rajon Rondo – 21st pick
(4) Kendrick Perkins – 27th pick

Why would you omit the guy who won the Finals MVP that year? Also, isn’t it important to note that Allen was traded for the #5 pick, and KG was traded for a lottery pick, as well?

By: Hubie

Hubie — Tue, 13 Sep 2022 11:53:51 +0000

Owen is exactly right and I think it is self evident. These takes from Z-Man stretch credibility to its limit and belie his intelligence. “The 6th most cap flexibility among non hard capped teams”, whatever that actually means, is not something we should be excited about.

By: E, all merc'd out

E, all merc'd out — Tue, 13 Sep 2022 11:46:04 +0000

When giving up a lottery pick to move $10M in salary is an example of maintaining “cap flexibility,” I can safely say that I’ve now heard it all.

By: Owen

Owen — Tue, 13 Sep 2022 11:30:50 +0000

Also high on Hartensteim.

Leon does just enough competent stuff so you can’t discount him completely, which is going to be an apt description for most of the teams he puts together.

By: Early Bird

Early Bird — Tue, 13 Sep 2022 05:15:06 +0000

I am really, really high on Hartenstein. He’s got a lot of tools even if his shooting is a mirage.

He’s the guy who can unlock Obi’s full PnR finishing, full-court gazelle-ing potential.

If his shooting isn’t a mirage… MVP. (Or we’ll at least look at moving Randle or Mitch to open up more time for him—maybe both.)

By: Donnie Walsh

Donnie Walsh — Tue, 13 Sep 2022 04:28:35 +0000

***You don’t think Jalen Brunson, Quentin Grimes, Immanuel Quickley, Derrick Rose, Obi Toppin, Mitchell Robinson, and Isaiah Hartenstein are good basketball players?***

I meant “good” relative to the other players in the league, not to the population at large. (I think they are the the 4-11 best players on the court any given evening, which isn’t great, but they are also the 4-11 best players in the building too, which, out of 19,763 people IS something to be proud of, I guess. #glasshalffull #rebuildhalfassed)

By: outlier files: geo

outlier files: geo — Tue, 13 Sep 2022 03:57:13 +0000

oh shit, are we finally no longer paying noah to kick back, travel and get high…

please, you want progress, there it is…

By: the glass half rebuilt

the glass half rebuilt — Tue, 13 Sep 2022 03:55:43 +0000

“ No mention of having good players, though. All the squinting in the world doesn’t change the one thing that’s really important in this league.”

You don’t think Jalen Brunson, Quentin Grimes, Immanuel Quickley, Derrick Rose, Obi Toppin, Mitchell Robinson, and Isaiah Hartenstein are good basketball players?

By: Early Bird

Early Bird — Tue, 13 Sep 2022 03:45:05 +0000

The Celtics won a championship with:
(1) Ray Allen – Trade
(2) Kevin Garnett – Trade
(3) Rajon Rondo – 21st pick
(4) Kendrick Perkins – 27th pick

The Pistons won a championship with:
(1) Ben Wallace – Trade
(2) Rasheed Wallace – Trade
(3) Rip Hamilton – Trade
(4) Tayshaun Prince – 23rd pick

The Raptors won a championship with:
(1) Kawhi Leonard- Trade
(2) Kyle Lowry – Trade
(3) Siakim – 27th pick
(4) FVV – Undrafted FA
(5) Marc Gasol – Trade
(6) Danny Green – Trade

3 championship teams built through trades and late round picks

By: Early Bird

Early Bird — Tue, 13 Sep 2022 03:26:14 +0000

1) We had many (most?) of those 2nd rd picks because of Leon Rose, e.g., the (MVP) Ed Davis trades, trading down and still drafting Grimes, etc. He made them expendable by acquiring additional 1st rd draft capital so that we are unlikely to have much use for all those 2nds. So he did create cap flexibility by acquiring assets that allowed him to get under the cap.

2) The direction is to gather assets to use in acquiring better assets or, failing that, acquiring even more assets to use in acquiring better assets. The more assets the Knicks have the easier it is to outbid other teams for stars, the easier it is to clear cap space to pursue FAs, and the easier it is to find star players in the draft (more bites at the apple). Flexibility to respond to the market is valuable.

(3) The Knicks do aim to find star players in the lower parts of the draft, much like the Jazz did. I’ve said this not infrequently, but Walt Perrin is literally the guy who did that with the Jazz.