Good is a vague word. To me good means a sure fire playoff team. Really good is an Conference Finalist contender. Great is a legit title shot. I don’t think they will be any of that.. Andi don’t think we will be that.

This is such a silly take. They were the 4th seed the year before. If they upgrade the starting PG position with Brunson, IQ, RJ, Obi, Mitch continue to improve, even incrementally, and Randle bounces back (the biggest if but it’s not some wild shot in the dark that it could happen) they could easily be better than this last season.

The NBA probably has the most parity it has had in a long time. The difference between a 32 win team and a 50 win team right now isn’t all that much.

There is no chance we will be good next year. We ought to prepare accordingly.

I disagree. I think there’s a way for them to be good next year. I don’t think there’s a realistic path to being really good, but just say, re-signing Mitch and adding Jalen Brunson to a team that went 37-45 probably gets the Knicks over .500 next year. That’s “good,” right? Just not a realistic path to being a true contender, but I think there’s a clear path to being a decent team.

Do t mind the trade of the 11. But paying to get rid of Kemba really hurts.

There is no chance we will be good next year. We ought to prepare accordingly.

ptmilo:
the stand-alone okc trade is hard to dislike.the detroit 23has a very high chance of conveying; i would say around 98%.the weighted expectation for that pick is something like #17-19 in 2025 (in value terms).typically the 18 is worth maybe 2/3 of the 11, though this one would be 3 yrs removed in time.the wizards 23 is not far off, and should be over 95% to convey as a first.the mean expectation for that pick is maybe the #16-18 in 2024.Similar value expectation.You could argue that these two picks alone have similar net value to the 2022 11, especially if you weren’t enamored with the options this yr.The denver pick, which we flipped, also has a very high chance of conveying, but a lower mean expectation. the mean value there is probably more like the 24th pick next yr.that’s ~40-50% of an average 11th pick, one year removed.overall that is somewhere between fair value and a good bit better that fair value, unless you really loved someone at 11 this year.

the kemba trade is a bit painful, though unless utah blows it up two of the seconds are probably pretty low value.the trade down from the nuggets pick to the bucks 2025 picks is pretty small, with most of the value disparity in the discount rate. which tends to be pretty low in the nba.it is kind of funny that we fired off so many 2023 picks in the kemba deal, after all the frail optimism about the never-actually-a-thing “double draft.”

Which is kind of what I think….in a strict asset/present vs. future value sense, it was a better-than-neutral night, but from a fan’s perspective in the here and now, it hurts because there are some guys who I would have loved to have rooted for and at least one guy who was available at #11 and #13 is going to be a stud. But something big is coming, something that might have been more harmful to our future store of assets had we not made this trade.