Comments on: 2021-22 Game Thread: Some of the Knicks @ Almost all of the Raptors https://knickerblogger.net/2022/01/2021-22-game-thread-some-of-the-knicks-almost-all-of-the-raptors/ Knicks, Stats, Humor, Analysis. Mon, 03 Jan 2022 13:28:06 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.1 By: Owen https://knickerblogger.net/2022/01/2021-22-game-thread-some-of-the-knicks-almost-all-of-the-raptors/#comment-782379 Mon, 03 Jan 2022 13:28:06 +0000 http://KnickerBlogger.Net/?p=19428#comment-782379 He meant it in an Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady kind of way perhaps.

I don’t know, just seems like infelicitious phrasing for a press conference.

]]> By: E, all merc'd out https://knickerblogger.net/2022/01/2021-22-game-thread-some-of-the-knicks-almost-all-of-the-raptors/#comment-782378 Mon, 03 Jan 2022 12:56:29 +0000 http://KnickerBlogger.Net/?p=19428#comment-782378 Publicly denominating your hyper-athletic second year 8th OA pick who’s on a clear upward trajectory a “backup quarterback” is almost beyond satire.

]]> By: Knick fan not in NJ https://knickerblogger.net/2022/01/2021-22-game-thread-some-of-the-knicks-almost-all-of-the-raptors/#comment-782377 Mon, 03 Jan 2022 12:35:29 +0000 http://KnickerBlogger.Net/?p=19428#comment-782377 Cybersoze, maybe he shouldn’t have said but basically he said Obi is terrific and Randle is even better. I’m not bothered by it.

]]> By: E, all merc'd out https://knickerblogger.net/2022/01/2021-22-game-thread-some-of-the-knicks-almost-all-of-the-raptors/#comment-782376 Mon, 03 Jan 2022 12:29:47 +0000 http://KnickerBlogger.Net/?p=19428#comment-782376 On the one hand you have the Raptors and their drafting and their scouting and their player development, and on the other hand you have … Tom Thibodeau.

]]> By: cybersoze https://knickerblogger.net/2022/01/2021-22-game-thread-some-of-the-knicks-almost-all-of-the-raptors/#comment-782375 Mon, 03 Jan 2022 11:15:27 +0000 http://KnickerBlogger.Net/?p=19428#comment-782375 KFNINJ, i’m sorry but i think there’s no excuse for those words. I hope by now Thibs is already regretting that quarterback part of the answer. Now, to help understand why he said it, looks like the question was about social media criticism of Julius Randle. Thibs was trying to protect his star player from criticism, but clearly used the wrong words, putting Obi under the fire needlessly.

]]> By: Knick fan not in NJ https://knickerblogger.net/2022/01/2021-22-game-thread-some-of-the-knicks-almost-all-of-the-raptors/#comment-782374 Mon, 03 Jan 2022 04:42:29 +0000 http://KnickerBlogger.Net/?p=19428#comment-782374 TNFH, Obi scored as many points tonight in 45 minutes as Randle averages in 35 minutes. He had a similar number assists in 45 minutes to what Randle gets in 35 minutes and he had many fewer rebounds. So while it was definitely a good game for Obi, I don’t see how it could match one of Randle’s ten best games of the season.

And I watched today’s game and didn’t think our problem was the power forward position. I thought we have no defense down low and we were often going on scoring droughts and made too many mistakes. We also got out rebounded 44 to 30, part of which was probably Obi, since he had a total of six rebounds in 45 minutes.

Raven, I don’t want to quibble over what people thought should be done with Obi. Overall, this game suggests they were right, he’s a reasonable NBA power forward. But he is in back of Randle and this game did not show he was better than Randle. And even though I like on off stats, I don’t think the on off numbers for Randle tell a true tale. They show that our second unit is very good but our second unit is mostly matched up with other second units and usually has had Rose leading it.

]]> By: cybersoze https://knickerblogger.net/2022/01/2021-22-game-thread-some-of-the-knicks-almost-all-of-the-raptors/#comment-782373 Mon, 03 Jan 2022 04:24:51 +0000 http://KnickerBlogger.Net/?p=19428#comment-782373

pepper:
“He’s a terrific player,’’ Thibodeau said when asked about the online clamoring for Toppin. “It’s the day and age of social media, and that’s what social media is. You try not to pay attention to it, because it’s really meaningless, whether it’s praise or criticism. It doesn’t really matter. Really, what matters is what we think. And so, we know how important he is. But it’s like the backup quarterback. Everyone thinks the backup should start until he has to start.’’

There, Thibs. This is what you should’ve said.

]]> By: Owen https://knickerblogger.net/2022/01/2021-22-game-thread-some-of-the-knicks-almost-all-of-the-raptors/#comment-782372 Mon, 03 Jan 2022 04:23:36 +0000 http://KnickerBlogger.Net/?p=19428#comment-782372 He really said that?

]]> By: thenoblefacehumper https://knickerblogger.net/2022/01/2021-22-game-thread-some-of-the-knicks-almost-all-of-the-raptors/#comment-782371 Mon, 03 Jan 2022 04:04:11 +0000 http://KnickerBlogger.Net/?p=19428#comment-782371

But he’s actually right. Lots of people on this blog thought Obi should get more time than Randle until the last two games showed Randle starts for a reason. That’s what he is talking about.

Did you watch today’s game and think “the problem was the production we got from the power forward position?” The game Obi had probably would’ve been one of Randle’s 10 or so best games of the season, and it was literally the first time all season Obi got 30+ minutes.

Thibs’ comment was incredibly weird. You drafted the guy in the lottery a little over a year ago, he’s been the best per-minute player on the team this year, and you compare him to, like, Geno Smith or some shit?

I’m starting to get mad on Obi’s behalf, especially considering the guy has done nothing but try to fit in, sometimes arguably to his own detriment, since coming here.

]]> By: Raven https://knickerblogger.net/2022/01/2021-22-game-thread-some-of-the-knicks-almost-all-of-the-raptors/#comment-782370 Mon, 03 Jan 2022 03:54:00 +0000 http://KnickerBlogger.Net/?p=19428#comment-782370 Knicks Fan, not sure that’s an accurate representation. Pretty much everyone thought 12 minutes of Obi a night was ludicrous, especially as the guy starting in front of him was shitting the bed. Many of us were (still are) excited to see how he does as a starter, since 12 minutes a night tells us very little. A few people were making really good statistical arguments that the team does quite a bit better with Randle off the floor. I’m not sure many were arguing to start Obi over Randle when both were available (although many said Randle should sit for a while in the hopes he can get his head straight).

I agree with Brian it’s a weird, weird thing to say. Obi’s not a 6-8 year vet with a proven weak arm. And frankly, much as I hate him, a young Tom Brady was once a backup quarterback.

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