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		By: Bruno Almeida		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bruno Almeida]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Nov 2021 12:30:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Leave it to Z-Man to do everything he can to start a fight, I guess it&#039;s been a while so it was due.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leave it to Z-Man to do everything he can to start a fight, I guess it&#8217;s been a while so it was due.</p>
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		By: Knick fan not in NJ		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Knick fan not in NJ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Nov 2021 12:09:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thibs seems to think that Mitch is slightly better than Noel because he gets the nod as starter over Noel.   I agree and think Mitch is slightly better on offense than Noel because he has better hands but not better on defense.  That said Mitch has not managed to improve his offensive variety at all and he really needs to because every opponent is now defending him for the alley oop and it’s working.  I don’t mind that he put on muscle. That’s going to happen as he ages anyway.  But he’s got to use that muscle well and get a new sort of shot.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thibs seems to think that Mitch is slightly better than Noel because he gets the nod as starter over Noel.   I agree and think Mitch is slightly better on offense than Noel because he has better hands but not better on defense.  That said Mitch has not managed to improve his offensive variety at all and he really needs to because every opponent is now defending him for the alley oop and it’s working.  I don’t mind that he put on muscle. That’s going to happen as he ages anyway.  But he’s got to use that muscle well and get a new sort of shot.</p>
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		By: E, all merc'd out		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[E, all merc'd out]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Nov 2021 11:53:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-772342&quot;&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-772342&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;Brian&#032;Cronin&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: 
Man, Evan Mobley is so fucking good.


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He&#039;s real nice.  The Cavs&#039; neo-Twin Towers look is actually kind of cool and is very likely a future force to be seriously reckoned with.]]></description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-772342" rel="nofollow ugc">Brian&#032;Cronin</a></strong>:<br />
Man, Evan Mobley is so fucking good.</p>
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<p>He&#8217;s real nice.  The Cavs&#8217; neo-Twin Towers look is actually kind of cool and is very likely a future force to be seriously reckoned with.</p>
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		By: E, all merc'd out		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[E, all merc'd out]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Nov 2021 11:46:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-772344&quot;&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-772344&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;Z&#045;man&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: To be fair, no one is actually currently arguing that Mitch is better than Allen per se.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It&#039;s not even close.  The KB love for Pogo Stick Mitch was overblown, but at least in the vicinity of reality;  Rubensque Mitch is nothing like his KB portrayal.]]></description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-772344" rel="nofollow ugc">Z&#045;man</a></strong>: To be fair, no one is actually currently arguing that Mitch is better than Allen per se.</p></blockquote>
<p>It&#8217;s not even close.  The KB love for Pogo Stick Mitch was overblown, but at least in the vicinity of reality;  Rubensque Mitch is nothing like his KB portrayal.</p>
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		By: E, all merc'd out		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[E, all merc'd out]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Nov 2021 11:43:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-772339&quot;&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-772339&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;ess&#045;dog&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: We suddenly have a fairly old and un-athletic team while other teams’ high draft picks have just started to ripen. I like our few young guys, but they aren’t the same as having future stars like Jalen Green or Evan Mobley.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

This times ten thousand.]]></description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-772339" rel="nofollow ugc">ess&#045;dog</a></strong>: We suddenly have a fairly old and un-athletic team while other teams’ high draft picks have just started to ripen. I like our few young guys, but they aren’t the same as having future stars like Jalen Green or Evan Mobley.</p></blockquote>
<p>This times ten thousand.</p>
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		By: Z-man		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Z-man]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Nov 2021 11:20:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[BTW, for me, the guy whose career arc is most reminiscent to Mitch&#039;s is Shump, who never turned the corner after a promising rookie year.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, for me, the guy whose career arc is most reminiscent to Mitch&#8217;s is Shump, who never turned the corner after a promising rookie year.</p>
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		By: Z-man		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Z-man]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Nov 2021 11:18:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-772340&quot;&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-772340&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;Donnie Walsh&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: As a resident objective reader, I have to say, I’ve had a hard time understanding the Mitchell Robinson love here. Most times when I’m watching the Knicks, I don’t even notice Robinson at all. I know there’s always been a low-usage/high-efficiency fetish at KB, but Allen has always seemed like the better prospect to me. He got 15  rebounds more this week than Robinson has gotten in his career. Oh, and he’s younger.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

To be fair, no one is actually currently arguing that Mitch is better than Allen per se. However, there are posters who a) have stated on multiple occasions over the past 3  years that Mitch is our best player, b) suggested for much of his first 2 years, if not longer,  that Mitch was a better prospect than Allen, RW III,  and others, c) believe that Mitch is significantly better than Noel, despite their stats on balance being similar in many/most regards, if not favorable to Noel. There seems to be a dread among posters that we are in danger of losing him in free agency by not offering him the max he can get right now. Yet, as high as I was on him his rookie year, I am pretty much done with the hype, which now has zero justification in 3  years of potential over production. 

Yesterday he got yanked by Thibs for glaring defensive lapses (including an embarassing blow-by for a dunk), yet one prominent poster who has been the conductor of the Mitch hype train remarked about how the defense fell apart as soon as he was pulled and how that should &quot;show the haterz.&quot; Yet Mitch&#039;s on-off stats are a ghastly -18.4 thus far this year. Like you, I just don&#039;t get the love, at least before we see some actual consistent production.]]></description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-772340" rel="nofollow ugc">Donnie Walsh</a></strong>: As a resident objective reader, I have to say, I’ve had a hard time understanding the Mitchell Robinson love here. Most times when I’m watching the Knicks, I don’t even notice Robinson at all. I know there’s always been a low-usage/high-efficiency fetish at KB, but Allen has always seemed like the better prospect to me. He got 15  rebounds more this week than Robinson has gotten in his career. Oh, and he’s younger.</p></blockquote>
<p>To be fair, no one is actually currently arguing that Mitch is better than Allen per se. However, there are posters who a) have stated on multiple occasions over the past 3  years that Mitch is our best player, b) suggested for much of his first 2 years, if not longer,  that Mitch was a better prospect than Allen, RW III,  and others, c) believe that Mitch is significantly better than Noel, despite their stats on balance being similar in many/most regards, if not favorable to Noel. There seems to be a dread among posters that we are in danger of losing him in free agency by not offering him the max he can get right now. Yet, as high as I was on him his rookie year, I am pretty much done with the hype, which now has zero justification in 3  years of potential over production. </p>
<p>Yesterday he got yanked by Thibs for glaring defensive lapses (including an embarassing blow-by for a dunk), yet one prominent poster who has been the conductor of the Mitch hype train remarked about how the defense fell apart as soon as he was pulled and how that should &#8220;show the haterz.&#8221; Yet Mitch&#8217;s on-off stats are a ghastly -18.4 thus far this year. Like you, I just don&#8217;t get the love, at least before we see some actual consistent production.</p>
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		By: cybersoze		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Nov 2021 11:09:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The KFS newsletter this morning catched my spirit quite well...
&lt;blockquote&gt;
Good morning! Would it be a much better morning had Ricky Rubio gone, say, 4-of-9 from deep, instead of having a once-in-a lifetime, “of course this shit happens to the Knicks” sort of game? Why yes, yes it would. But we deal with what we have.
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And another thing, we&#039;re not overachieving (as the bunch of new Knicks 20-21 teams you guys are talking about) and we&#039;re still up there, so i find this as a positive. When we regress to our new (and higher) mean, and the overachievers do the same, we&#039;ll see where we are. Much likely ahead of them and on pace for the season we expected. Well, at least the ones that applied more caution and predicted wins for the season in the 40s.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The KFS newsletter this morning catched my spirit quite well&#8230;</p>
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Good morning! Would it be a much better morning had Ricky Rubio gone, say, 4-of-9 from deep, instead of having a once-in-a lifetime, “of course this shit happens to the Knicks” sort of game? Why yes, yes it would. But we deal with what we have.
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<p>And another thing, we&#8217;re not overachieving (as the bunch of new Knicks 20-21 teams you guys are talking about) and we&#8217;re still up there, so i find this as a positive. When we regress to our new (and higher) mean, and the overachievers do the same, we&#8217;ll see where we are. Much likely ahead of them and on pace for the season we expected. Well, at least the ones that applied more caution and predicted wins for the season in the 40s.</p>
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		By: Brian Cronin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian Cronin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Nov 2021 10:52:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://knickerblogger.net/2021/11/2021-22-game-thread-knicks-vs-cavaliers/#comment-772341&quot;&gt;Bruno Almeida&lt;/a&gt;.

Man, Evan Mobley is so fucking good.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://knickerblogger.net/2021/11/2021-22-game-thread-knicks-vs-cavaliers/#comment-772341">Bruno Almeida</a>.</p>
<p>Man, Evan Mobley is so fucking good.</p>
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		By: Bruno Almeida		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bruno Almeida]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Nov 2021 10:37:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If anything, I&#039;m less bummed about losing this one because we did lose to a one of a kind, never happening again, performance from a veteran guard. Rubio is literally the first person ever to have this statline coming off thr bench, it was a real aberration. I also think Mobley is going to be a superstar and if he figures out how to shoot 3s consistently he&#039;ll be a major problem for the years to come. I was much more annoyed at losing to the Pacers and Raptors with some bona fide scrubs everywhere outperforming and outhustling our team.

In this game, if RJ is shooting a bit better and Rubio doesn&#039;t turn into Esteban Curry, we have a good chance of winning. I do hope however that Thibs is deep in the tank thinking about how to get the defense back on track, because we&#039;ve been getting torched way too much by open shooters and guys who should never be scoring as much as they are.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If anything, I&#8217;m less bummed about losing this one because we did lose to a one of a kind, never happening again, performance from a veteran guard. Rubio is literally the first person ever to have this statline coming off thr bench, it was a real aberration. I also think Mobley is going to be a superstar and if he figures out how to shoot 3s consistently he&#8217;ll be a major problem for the years to come. I was much more annoyed at losing to the Pacers and Raptors with some bona fide scrubs everywhere outperforming and outhustling our team.</p>
<p>In this game, if RJ is shooting a bit better and Rubio doesn&#8217;t turn into Esteban Curry, we have a good chance of winning. I do hope however that Thibs is deep in the tank thinking about how to get the defense back on track, because we&#8217;ve been getting torched way too much by open shooters and guys who should never be scoring as much as they are.</p>
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