Comments on: NY Post: Knicks In the Driver’s Seat for the #4 Seed! https://knickerblogger.net/2021/05/ny-post-knicks-in-the-drivers-seat-for-the-4-seed/ Knicks, Stats, Humor, Analysis. Sun, 16 May 2021 15:54:23 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.1 By: GHenman https://knickerblogger.net/2021/05/ny-post-knicks-in-the-drivers-seat-for-the-4-seed/#comment-749327 Sun, 16 May 2021 15:54:23 +0000 http://KnickerBlogger.Net/?p=18934#comment-749327 Duncan and LaRue were also pretty down on him off the top of my head, but yes most people had him #3.

]]> By: thenoblefacehumper https://knickerblogger.net/2021/05/ny-post-knicks-in-the-drivers-seat-for-the-4-seed/#comment-749326 Sun, 16 May 2021 15:53:43 +0000 http://KnickerBlogger.Net/?p=18934#comment-749326

We basically got two non lottery picks and a draft bust for a guy that was worth way more than that at the time.

I don’t want to beat a dead horse, but my long-time problem with this argument is people tend to presuppose his value was way higher than what we got, then blame Perry et al. for not receiving that higher value.

The obvious flaw in this argument is that nothing is ever cited in support of the idea that his value was so much higher than an unprotected first, a lightly protected first, and middling-but-not-totally-distressed (yet) asset in DSJ. This is to say nothing of the cap space we gained, which we easily could’ve used to get more picks had we chosen to do so instead of signing all the mercs (without it, I don’t think we could’ve signed both Randle and Morris, so there’s that).

At the time of the trade Porzingis had recently torn his ACL and was coming off his third-consecutive season that started well and then fell off a cliff. It is quite possible front offices around the league just didn’t value him as highly as you think!

]]> By: Z-man https://knickerblogger.net/2021/05/ny-post-knicks-in-the-drivers-seat-for-the-4-seed/#comment-749325 Sun, 16 May 2021 15:44:28 +0000 http://KnickerBlogger.Net/?p=18934#comment-749325

Brian Cronin: There was no player going to be drafted at #3 but Barrett. It took very little thought to take Barrett there. He was by far the consensus #3. I don’t think a single mock draft didn’t have him there.

If he meant “consensus” in the KB context, that’s a bit more fair, there were plenty of RJ detractors here who would rather have traded down.

]]> By: Alan https://knickerblogger.net/2021/05/ny-post-knicks-in-the-drivers-seat-for-the-4-seed/#comment-749324 Sun, 16 May 2021 15:42:25 +0000 http://KnickerBlogger.Net/?p=18934#comment-749324

@MikeVorkunov
Everybody is healthy for the Knicks today against Boston, except Mitchell Robinson. The Celtics are benching, well, pretty much everyone. Tatum, Kemba, Fournier, Robert Williams, Tristan Thompson, and Marcus Smart are all out.

]]> By: Brian Cronin https://knickerblogger.net/2021/05/ny-post-knicks-in-the-drivers-seat-for-the-4-seed/#comment-749323 Sun, 16 May 2021 15:40:19 +0000 http://KnickerBlogger.Net/?p=18934#comment-749323 In reply to Z-man.

incompetent backstabbing scumbag like Mills 

Bravo. Perfect distillation of Mills. Boy, did I dislike that guy.

]]> By: Z-man https://knickerblogger.net/2021/05/ny-post-knicks-in-the-drivers-seat-for-the-4-seed/#comment-749322 Sun, 16 May 2021 15:39:13 +0000 http://KnickerBlogger.Net/?p=18934#comment-749322 Perry seems like a journeyman as a GM. Nice guy, well respected, just not much of a visionary like Ujiri, Morey, or Riley. He’s probably a good member of a team of rivals. Just not qualified to be the only or the main voice in building a contender. Certainly not an incompetent backstabbing scumbag like Mills or a bumbling burnout hippie like Phil.

]]> By: Brian Cronin https://knickerblogger.net/2021/05/ny-post-knicks-in-the-drivers-seat-for-the-4-seed/#comment-749321 Sun, 16 May 2021 15:26:46 +0000 http://KnickerBlogger.Net/?p=18934#comment-749321 In reply to Knick fan not in NJ.

Drafting RJ was by no means a no brainer.

There was no player going to be drafted at #3 but Barrett. It took very little thought to take Barrett there. He was by far the consensus #3. I don’t think a single mock draft didn’t have him there.

]]> By: Brian Cronin https://knickerblogger.net/2021/05/ny-post-knicks-in-the-drivers-seat-for-the-4-seed/#comment-749320 Sun, 16 May 2021 15:24:13 +0000 http://KnickerBlogger.Net/?p=18934#comment-749320 In reply to Knick fan not in NJ.

He wasn’t as bad as Phil. That’s true.

]]> By: Knick fan not in NJ https://knickerblogger.net/2021/05/ny-post-knicks-in-the-drivers-seat-for-the-4-seed/#comment-749319 Sun, 16 May 2021 15:11:05 +0000 http://KnickerBlogger.Net/?p=18934#comment-749319 Perry also made a good deal in trading Melo when many thought it would be impossible to trade him at all, much less get anything useful in return.

]]> By: GHenman https://knickerblogger.net/2021/05/ny-post-knicks-in-the-drivers-seat-for-the-4-seed/#comment-749318 Sun, 16 May 2021 14:47:03 +0000 http://KnickerBlogger.Net/?p=18934#comment-749318 Randle was good before he got here. He had a TS over .600 the 2 years previous to signing with the Knicks. Signing him to a 3yr $63 million contract rather than maxing KP makes the trade a win regardless of how the picks work out. Maybe if Bullock wasn’t injured they would have had better spacing and they wouldn’t have sucked. Drafting RJ was by no means a no brainer. Many people here and elsewhere thought he had bust written all over him. I wasn’t crazy about the KP trade, but in retrospect it was the right thing to do. I’m not saying Perry was great, but I do think Rose came into the job with a solid base.

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