Prediction time!

http://knickerblogger.net/nba-eastern-conference-all-star-reserves-predictions/

We’d need to move significant draft capital and give up RJ.

I just don’t see where we get a 3rd superstar, unless we bet on LaVine’s season being real. At that point you’re betting on LaVine, Randle, & Beal maintaining their career numbers from this season as their new baseline. Randle & LaVine are young enough for it to be plausible, Beal not so much.

Even if those 3 players are all real, then I’d still probably slot us behind the Nets and a few teams. On the other hand, we probably have 4-5 year window to make it work.

There’s a path with Beal, but the window to acquire a 3rd star closes very quickly.

cgreene: Ok. Let’s start the bidding. Think I did this exercise before.

Either the NY or DAL unprotected 2021 1st
Either the NY or DAL top 3 protected 2023 1st
2022 swap
Toppin
Frank
Knox
Filler

This is a deal I would do.

It’s not really worth the exercise. Your offer is fair. It would take a tweak or two. Nobody on this board is going to believe you get Washington to agree. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve read “I can’t believe how (fill in the team) stole (fill in the star) here.

No. I’m making the case that Washington is not winning with Beal and G-leaguers, as was stated before. They are winning with Beal Westbrook some NBA rotational players.

Ranking 194th of 199 qualified players in the league’s most important stat? That’s not G-league-esque to you?

vincoug: Dumb for who? Washington or Orlando?

Not dumb for anyone. Dumb enough to happen, given that WAS and ORL are the two franchises involved. ORL would basically become the Wizards of the south, and WAS gets a player who has never moved the needle once. Orlando fans are constantly scratching their heads about why this guy with “all the tools” keeps at the helm of a perennial 35-win team.

Does he have a better outlook? His counting stats are good but his BPM is 0.6 and his BPM last year was only 1.2 his efficiency is basically league average which is what it’s been for his career. Meanwhile, Denver is 16-14 and in 7th place a year after going to the WCF and have only 4 players with a positive BPM and Jokic is the only one with a BPM above 1. They need to at least consider trading Murray to improve the team.

Beal from 24-27 has had a 2.2, 2.9, 2.9 and 4.9 BPM. This year, he’s got a sky-high OBPM because he leads the league in USG% on a TS% that’s just ahead of Murray’s (102 to 104). That’s great! He is an exceptional offensive player right now.

But again, he’s going to turn 28 before the playoffs start. And Murray’s under contract through that age. Beal is not, and is eligible for an even bigger contract, possibly a 10-year supermax if he keeps up this level of play. That’s a HUGE edge to Murray, even if his potential is as of yet unrealized. I think Beal is a much better player on offense than Murray right now, but we’re talking about a huge bet on a short-term future play. Once Beal signs his supermax, whichever team is holding it better be ready to go deep into the playoffs, because they sure as hell ain’t adding help once he’s making $50M a year. And if he declines after 30, too bad. That’s a guaranteed contract and Jokic’s prime is wasted.

Z-man: More like an invasive species, but I digress…

A more accurate description. GoNYGoNYGo=Invasive Species.

thenoblefacehumper: Are you really trying to make the case that the Knicks should’ve traded an asset for Russell Westbrook? There may be no more hilarious hill ever died on in the history of this board.

No. I’m making the case that Washington is not winning with Beal and G-leaguers, as was stated before. They are winning with Beal+Westbrook+ some NBA rotational players.

Early Bird: This is really on Knickerblogger for not doing a better job developing E.

haha, now THAT is a roast

thenoblefacehumper:
I’m surprised this hasn’t come up yet, but anyone think we should look into signing Quinn Cook? It’s almost definitely not happening due to the roster crunch, but I think he’d be a better use of a spot than Taj Gibson.

i would go for him over both rivers and rose..