I think you are right to express uncertainty about the exact nature and prevalence of the long term consequences of covid. It’s an active area of research and the data for assessing it are only recently coming together.

I think you’re very overconfident to feel sure that it’s not high. Initial evidence suggests that it is prevalent and severe enough that it would be irresponsible for media sources not to write stories about it.

It is not a safe assumption that government health agencies and mainstream news are promulgating biased facts about covid. Many mainstream media organs are biased against Trump. It’s a bias I share. And that has understandably exacerbated mistrust in them as neutral information sources especially on issues with a political valance related to Trump.

I don’t think that’s true with covid facts. Judgment calls about policy wisdom, sure, but not numbers.

This is legitimately big and we face it best when we resist the temptation to blame or second guess one another’s intentions. It’s almost as if Mars attacked and instead of uniting we continued to bicker. Less heat, noise, and paranoia will be very helpful for this and many other issues that need effective collective action.

Unsurprising, but still. Says he doesn’t plan on settling on a rotation until a few games into regular season. Says some guys are still behind in conditioning.

Early Bird: And my point is that we’re seeing death totals for young people who have Covid-19 in numbers significantly higher than other diseases, even for young people.

I understand. It’s an infectious disease that spreads easily.

Just because I am trying to tone down the fear doesn’t mean I am advocating we all go to MSG without masks and yell and scream in each other’s faces about how Frank sucks. 🙂 I am simply saying the data is not nearly as bad as the early perceptions. The epidemiologists that were getting killed by the media and majority of healthcare professionals at the start of the pandemic for playing down CFR are turning out to have been right. That’s not the same as saying everyone go out and party!

wetbandit: Sure, that’s all they suffer from. Right.

I’m not trying to minimize anything, but being overly panicked about it is not the answer either unless you want to be on meds like me.

There have been articles pointing out lung issues like that in some college football players and other athletes that got it. They eventually recovered in the same way most that lose taste and smell recover from it. My girfriend’s brother, his wife, children, and their boyfriends all gave it to each other about 2 months ago. They had mild fevers, felt like they had a bad cold, but they also lost all sense of taste and smell. They recovered, but the lack of taste and smell lingered for weeks after they were fully recovered from the infection itself. Then all of a sudden they all got it back. Some of these effects being reported last longer than the infection but eventually also go away. Like I said, it would be nice to have exact data for “permanent organ damage”, but I don’t have that.

Deeefense: I agree its a deadly disease that it’s going to kill a lot of people including many that are young. Many other infectious and non infectious diseases kill a lot of young people. The “rates” are a way of keeping it in perspective relative to other risks and identifying where the risks are highest so we eventually put our energy into the right places.

And my point is that we’re seeing death totals for young people who have Covid-19 in numbers significantly higher than other diseases, even for young people.

because the list of exclusive 3pt shooters having long careers is exceedingly short….. these guys are essentially field goal kickers…. and yes using a high pick on a field goal kicker is pretty bad….

That’s a great comparison.