Comments on: NY Post: Knicks hire Kentucky’s Kenny Payne as first addition to Tom Thibodeau’s staff

By: geo

geo — Sun, 16 Aug 2020 22:11:13 +0000

i’m not certain i can watch more than two games a day anymore…every once in awhile i’ll catch a few games over the weekend, but, yeah, wow, i’ve been watching lots of basketball lately…

series i’m most looking forward to – east: celtics v 76’s, pacers v heat; west: rockets v thunder, lakers v blazers

on a much more interesting note, been doing a deep dive on star wars lately…went through some interesting stories from the rebels series…the series arc finale was really strong, lot of lore references, and a really crazy ending…crazy as in “something” appears which i didn’t even know existed in that universe…it was really weird, but interesting…gonna take another look at the mandalorian, looks like season 2 may introduce a fan (and personal) favorite…their first appearance in live action…

i kind of, sort of remember the marvel comic series (i wasn’t that in to collecting when it came out), there’s a chance some of those stories might get told on screen…

yeah, those 400 post threads are a bit of a scrolling battle from time to time….

By: Z-man

Z-man — Sun, 16 Aug 2020 21:17:07 +0000

BC, how about a new thread for playoff predictions?

By: vincoug

vincoug — Sun, 16 Aug 2020 17:32:15 +0000

Bo Nateman:
In 1999, the Dolans made an attempt to buy the Mets, but apparently, Nelson Doubleday was not in favor. https://www.amazinavenue.com/2014/2/17/5404240/new-york-mets-ownership-cablevision-when-the-wilpons-met-the-dolans
Very speculative, but had they succeeded in buying the Mets, Dolan may not have purchased the Knicks, or at the least not been as involved. We’d have a whole different history.

Interesting but I don’t think it would have affected the Knicks. The Dolans were part owners of the Knicks for years and I believe took over full ownership a couple of years before this.

By: ess-dog

ess-dog — Sun, 16 Aug 2020 16:49:26 +0000

KP’s been the 4th-most efficient high-volume scorer in the bubble, says Draft Express. Neat!

By: KnickfaninNJ

KnickfaninNJ — Sun, 16 Aug 2020 16:21:09 +0000

Thanks Bo, that’s interesting.

By: KnickfaninNJ

KnickfaninNJ — Sun, 16 Aug 2020 16:18:23 +0000

I would add that the 40 spots on a baseball roster are comparable to the fifteen on a basketball one. In baseball you need nine or ten pitchers in the regular rotation plus eight non pitching starters for a total of 17 or 18 players. Adding in a few players that are regular subs, like pinch hitters or a second catcher gets you to twenty player or half the roster. That’s similar to the eight active players out of fifteen total in the NBA.

By: Bo Nateman

Bo Nateman — Sun, 16 Aug 2020 16:09:33 +0000

In 1999, the Dolans made an attempt to buy the Mets, but apparently, Nelson Doubleday was not in favor. https://www.amazinavenue.com/2014/2/17/5404240/new-york-mets-ownership-cablevision-when-the-wilpons-met-the-dolans
Very speculative, but had they succeeded in buying the Mets, Dolan may not have purchased the Knicks, or at the least not been as involved. We’d have a whole different history.

By: KnickfaninNJ

KnickfaninNJ — Sun, 16 Aug 2020 15:56:46 +0000

Donnie I’m not sure if Knicks management can do anything better than be patient at this point given that the one draft pick that they clearly did well on, KP, was traded for mostly future potential, which kind of set our path unless we hit it big in the free agent market which is a Knicks’ fairy tale.

If Dolan bought the Mets do you think that would bring them better management?

By: Donnie Walsh

Donnie Walsh — Sun, 16 Aug 2020 15:27:47 +0000

***I don’t follow Baseball much, so I had to look up Miller and Frazier. When I did I had a Basketball thought. Frazier was drafted at nineteen and no one expected him to play big league ball right away. The Yankees traded for him when he was twenty three and still didn’t expect him to play right away. The Knicks draft players at those ages and if they are not impact players right away, they are bums. It makes me want to have more patience with our young players; not just Ntilikina, who comes to mind right away, but Barrett, Smith, Iggy, Wooten and others.***

Baseball rookie contracts are 7 years long, there are 40 spots on the roster, and there’s no salary cap. All things equal, patience is good. But when it comes to spending scarce resources on children, they need to have more than just potential. It’s the system the NBA has created for itself to operate under and good teams navigate it better than bad teams. (In baseball, the rich teams do it better — maybe Dolan should buy a baseball team!)

By: KnickfaninNJ

KnickfaninNJ — Sun, 16 Aug 2020 14:21:01 +0000

I don’t follow Baseball much, so I had to look up Miller and Frazier. When I did I had a Basketball thought. Frazier was drafted at nineteen and no one expected him to play big league ball right away. The Yankees traded for him when he was twenty three and still didn’t expect him to play right away. The Knicks draft players at those ages and if they are not impact players right away, they are bums. It makes me want to have more patience with our young players; not just Ntilikina, who comes to mind right away, but Barrett, Smith, Iggy, Wooten and others.