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		By: Grocer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Grocer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2020 01:57:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;I think the correct approach is to blather on and on&lt;/blockquote&gt;

This bit where you restate what Jowles is saying at egregious length is definitely working.  You should keep it up, people are almost convinced. 

&lt;blockquote&gt;but I don’t have wildly detailed spreadsheets.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

C&#039;mon, even the Timecube guy put in the work.

I&#039;m looking forward to where you accuse me of libel.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I think the correct approach is to blather on and on</p></blockquote>
<p>This bit where you restate what Jowles is saying at egregious length is definitely working.  You should keep it up, people are almost convinced. </p>
<blockquote><p>but I don’t have wildly detailed spreadsheets.</p></blockquote>
<p>C&#8217;mon, even the Timecube guy put in the work.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m looking forward to where you accuse me of libel.</p>
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		By: KnickfaninNJ		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2020 18:00:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt; f he trades lavine, which seems pretty possible, we don’t want to be on the other end of that zoom. we’d be left with a julius randle sized hole in our future assets and a note on the night table.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I’m not sure what you mean about an asset hole,  As a potential trade asset, Levine is probably as good as Randle.  And this forum has discussed many times that Randle doesn’t fit with Mitch. For all his warts, Levine can shoot threes and fits much better with the Knicks needs.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> f he trades lavine, which seems pretty possible, we don’t want to be on the other end of that zoom. we’d be left with a julius randle sized hole in our future assets and a note on the night table.</p></blockquote>
<p>I’m not sure what you mean about an asset hole,  As a potential trade asset, Levine is probably as good as Randle.  And this forum has discussed many times that Randle doesn’t fit with Mitch. For all his warts, Levine can shoot threes and fits much better with the Knicks needs.</p>
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		By: Dink		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2020 17:12:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Things like assistant coaches would come into play here. The Knicks probably want some say over the assistants do they have a good backup coach in case they get disillusioned with him.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I really hope this isn&#039;t the reason why the new HC hasn&#039;t been announced. I&#039;m not gung ho for Thibs, but if the Knicks think he&#039;s the guy then they should just hire him and let him choose the assistants.  Maybe it&#039;s the PTSD but this feels like Dolan/Rose trying to place their personal mole on the bench.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Things like assistant coaches would come into play here. The Knicks probably want some say over the assistants do they have a good backup coach in case they get disillusioned with him.</p></blockquote>
<p>I really hope this isn&#8217;t the reason why the new HC hasn&#8217;t been announced. I&#8217;m not gung ho for Thibs, but if the Knicks think he&#8217;s the guy then they should just hire him and let him choose the assistants.  Maybe it&#8217;s the PTSD but this feels like Dolan/Rose trying to place their personal mole on the bench.</p>
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		By: Deeefense		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2020 16:57:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-702663&quot;&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-702663&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;The&#032;Honorable&#032;Cock&#032;Jowles&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: Again, you’re using your 140-point system to discredit statistical analysis. That ain’t it, chief.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;m not &quot;paid&quot; to generate ratings for all the players in the NBA and don&#039;t think it would be worth it since I&#039;m not putting millions of dollars through the windows on basketball in Vegas.  But as a serious fan and occasional gambler, it helps if I value &quot;a few players&quot;  or &quot;situations&quot; better than conventional wisdom to create opportunities for my occasional plunge.

I think the correct approach is to build a very detailed spreadsheet of all the skills needed to play championship caliber basketball and rate each player on each skill. I mean super detailed.  Every single possible aspect of offense and defense and even intangibles should be evaluated.  

Then you should try to maximize the &quot;team level&quot; output by putting complimentary pieces on the floor together while limiting overlap.  

If you are a GM level guy and with a staff, scouts, an analytic&#039;s team, video etc.. you can get incredibly detailed and cover the whole league.  

At my level, I&#039;m watching a LOT of games for fun and also looking for flaws in conventional thinking for &quot;a handful&quot; of individual players in case there is an injury or trade and the betting line doesn&#039;t move the way I think it should.  I am also looking for situations that occasionally present value, but those have mostly vanished as the stats guys started coming public with their research. 

I usually more or less agree with conventional wisdom. The public models are usually more or less in sync with that consensus. Sometimes I disagree by enough to be a pain the ass on this forum, but I don&#039;t have wildly detailed spreadsheets. I have enough to tempt me to wager.]]></description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-702663" rel="nofollow ugc">The&#032;Honorable&#032;Cock&#032;Jowles</a></strong>: Again, you’re using your 140-point system to discredit statistical analysis. That ain’t it, chief.
</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m not &#8220;paid&#8221; to generate ratings for all the players in the NBA and don&#8217;t think it would be worth it since I&#8217;m not putting millions of dollars through the windows on basketball in Vegas.  But as a serious fan and occasional gambler, it helps if I value &#8220;a few players&#8221;  or &#8220;situations&#8221; better than conventional wisdom to create opportunities for my occasional plunge.</p>
<p>I think the correct approach is to build a very detailed spreadsheet of all the skills needed to play championship caliber basketball and rate each player on each skill. I mean super detailed.  Every single possible aspect of offense and defense and even intangibles should be evaluated.  </p>
<p>Then you should try to maximize the &#8220;team level&#8221; output by putting complimentary pieces on the floor together while limiting overlap.  </p>
<p>If you are a GM level guy and with a staff, scouts, an analytic&#8217;s team, video etc.. you can get incredibly detailed and cover the whole league.  </p>
<p>At my level, I&#8217;m watching a LOT of games for fun and also looking for flaws in conventional thinking for &#8220;a handful&#8221; of individual players in case there is an injury or trade and the betting line doesn&#8217;t move the way I think it should.  I am also looking for situations that occasionally present value, but those have mostly vanished as the stats guys started coming public with their research. </p>
<p>I usually more or less agree with conventional wisdom. The public models are usually more or less in sync with that consensus. Sometimes I disagree by enough to be a pain the ass on this forum, but I don&#8217;t have wildly detailed spreadsheets. I have enough to tempt me to wager.</p>
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		By: ptmilo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2020 16:45:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;That’s a great idea, and it works in the trade machine. &lt;/em&gt;

another great knickerblogger band name.  keep &#039;em coming.  but step away from the trade machine.  zero chance in hell karnisovas swaps lavine for randle.  if he trades lavine, which seems pretty possible, we don&#039;t want to be on the other end of that zoom.  we&#039;d be left with a julius randle sized hole in our future assets and a note on the night table.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>That’s a great idea, and it works in the trade machine. </em></p>
<p>another great knickerblogger band name.  keep &#8217;em coming.  but step away from the trade machine.  zero chance in hell karnisovas swaps lavine for randle.  if he trades lavine, which seems pretty possible, we don&#8217;t want to be on the other end of that zoom.  we&#8217;d be left with a julius randle sized hole in our future assets and a note on the night table.</p>
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		By: KnickfaninNJ		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2020 16:34:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I can easily see the sticking points with Thibs being other things than salary. He wouldn’t have wanted to be GM and coach if he didn’t want a lot of control.  Things like assistant coaches would come into play here.  The Knicks probably want some say over the assistants do they have a good backup coach in case they get disillusioned with him.   And Thibs probably views the Knicks job as high risk and so wants a long term contract.  The Knicks would probably rather gia shorter higher priced contract, but he may not want that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can easily see the sticking points with Thibs being other things than salary. He wouldn’t have wanted to be GM and coach if he didn’t want a lot of control.  Things like assistant coaches would come into play here.  The Knicks probably want some say over the assistants do they have a good backup coach in case they get disillusioned with him.   And Thibs probably views the Knicks job as high risk and so wants a long term contract.  The Knicks would probably rather gia shorter higher priced contract, but he may not want that.</p>
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		By: alsep73		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2020 16:28:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Lots of Knicks writers hearing lots of slightly different things. Here&#039;s Macri, for instance: 

&lt;blockquote&gt;I’m hearing the sticking point on the Thibodeau contract is over the length of the deal. Also, as has been reported elsewhere, the Knicks want a say over his assistants.

Lastly, I wouldn’t count out Kenny Atkinson or Mike Miller for the HC job just yet.&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lots of Knicks writers hearing lots of slightly different things. Here&#8217;s Macri, for instance: </p>
<blockquote><p>I’m hearing the sticking point on the Thibodeau contract is over the length of the deal. Also, as has been reported elsewhere, the Knicks want a say over his assistants.</p>
<p>Lastly, I wouldn’t count out Kenny Atkinson or Mike Miller for the HC job just yet.</p></blockquote>
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		By: Deeefense		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2020 16:23:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wait a minute, this is more important than the Knicks coaching search or broken stats models. 

A report in the NY Times is hinting that the US has possession of &quot;off-world vehicles not made on this earth”.

I don&#039;t have a NY Time subscription, but here&#039;s another source.  

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/ufo-pentagon-statement-findings-vehicle-research-a9636481.html?utm_medium=Social&#038;utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1595603505]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait a minute, this is more important than the Knicks coaching search or broken stats models. </p>
<p>A report in the NY Times is hinting that the US has possession of &#8220;off-world vehicles not made on this earth”.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have a NY Time subscription, but here&#8217;s another source.  </p>
<p><a href="https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/ufo-pentagon-statement-findings-vehicle-research-a9636481.html?utm_medium=Social&#038;utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1595603505" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/ufo-pentagon-statement-findings-vehicle-research-a9636481.html?utm_medium=Social&#038;utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1595603505</a></p>
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		By: The Honorable Cock Jowles		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2020 16:19:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;The level of cognitive bias at Wages of Wins was so monstrous it was amazing. It was laughable. They should have just accepted that there was a problem with their math and tried to fix it a decade ago. But they are still arguing the same nonsense.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Again, you&#039;re using your 140-point system to discredit statistical analysis. That ain&#039;t it, chief.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The level of cognitive bias at Wages of Wins was so monstrous it was amazing. It was laughable. They should have just accepted that there was a problem with their math and tried to fix it a decade ago. But they are still arguing the same nonsense.</p></blockquote>
<p>Again, you&#8217;re using your 140-point system to discredit statistical analysis. That ain&#8217;t it, chief.</p>
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		By: KnickfaninNJ		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2020 16:18:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-702648&quot;&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-702648&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;Z&#045;man&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: 
I would trade Randle for Lavine in a heartbeat


&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That’s a great idea, and it works in the trade machine.  The trade machine does say this would make Knicks one win better and the Bulls fifteen games worse.   I think that disparity must reflect the Knicks having other big men, but the Bulls having no one to replace Levine. Nonetheless, the Bulls lose a little salary and gain flexibility in the summer of 2021 because Randle’s contract is shorter.  We can hope.]]></description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-702648" rel="nofollow ugc">Z&#045;man</a></strong>:<br />
I would trade Randle for Lavine in a heartbeat</p>
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<p>That’s a great idea, and it works in the trade machine.  The trade machine does say this would make Knicks one win better and the Bulls fifteen games worse.   I think that disparity must reflect the Knicks having other big men, but the Bulls having no one to replace Levine. Nonetheless, the Bulls lose a little salary and gain flexibility in the summer of 2021 because Randle’s contract is shorter.  We can hope.</p>
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