Comments on: 2019-20 Game Thread: Knicks vs. Suns

By: The Honorable Cock Jowles

The Honorable Cock Jowles — Fri, 17 Jan 2020 18:23:32 +0000

I only said Bowie because of Luka

By: JK47

JK47 — Fri, 17 Jan 2020 16:42:41 +0000

The Suns aren’t even that well run, but they managed to pick up Ayton and Booker, and flipped a declining veteran in Ariza for a young player in Oubre who panned out. They whiffed on some lottery picks but they’re still in better shape than us because we chased marginal wins and weren’t able to flip irrelevant veterans for kids with upside.

The way we do it is literally the worst possible way.

By: djphan

djphan — Fri, 17 Jan 2020 16:29:04 +0000

ayton’s more like brad daugherty…. who was pretty good… but definitely a peg or two below the great centers… and that’s because he was weak defensively….

ayton’s kind of like that.. in this day and age without the defensive chops he’ll perpetually be somewhere in the top 10 of centers but distantly away from the top 5…. and for whatever reason he never gets to the line…

you can do ok with him as your center… and u could do well with booker also.. it’s just u need a lot more around them also…. those old cavs teams were pretty good with daugherty and price along with nance and ehlo…. but it’s so tough getting that kind of rotation AND keeping it together…. in the modern age only the pistons managed to do that….

By: d-mar

d-mar — Fri, 17 Jan 2020 16:21:51 +0000

He did have a great year at Arizona (until he met the mighty SUNY Buffalo in March) but he’s looking a lot like Sam Bowie right now.

Actually reminds me a little of the Admiral in terms of his build. Not sure Robinson would fit in too well in today’s NBA either, although his defense was superb. Would have to develop a passable 3 point shot.

By: The Honorable Cock Jowles

The Honorable Cock Jowles — Fri, 17 Jan 2020 16:19:56 +0000

Matisse Thybulle and Brandon Clarke

You mean the guy about to turn 23 and the other guy who’s already 23 who are locked up for pocket change through age 26? Yawn. Wake me up when you find a 19-year-old who I can throw max money at, on a hunch about his upside.

Seriously though, the only thing that concerns me about Clarke is his total inability to set a good pick. He needs to spend the summer with Draymond or Steven Adams. He screens like a Knick.

By: The Honorable Cock Jowles

The Honorable Cock Jowles — Fri, 17 Jan 2020 16:17:56 +0000

Ayton is such a throwback player. Dude would have been at home in the NBA from 1990 to about 2008. I don’t see him as ever being a superstar in the pace and space era, though, and when you bookend that pick with “upside” guys like Culver and Josh Jackson, you really need to hit a home run with your #1 overall.

He did have a great year at Arizona (until he met the mighty SUNY Buffalo in March) but he’s looking a lot like Sam Bowie right now.

By: thenoblefacehumper

thenoblefacehumper — Fri, 17 Jan 2020 16:04:30 +0000

and picks that won’t be worth much unless we package them to move up or land a better player

True. Right now the Mavs’ pick is either 20th or 21st depending on a tiebreaker, and it’ll likely be similar next season when we have it. The players picked with those picks last year were the completely worthless scrubs *checks notes* Matisse Thybulle and Brandon Clarke.

By: djphan

djphan — Fri, 17 Jan 2020 15:51:16 +0000

i wouldn’t get so gaga over what the suns have…. they have ok players but they’re not gonna be doing anything substantial….

ayton and booker are ok building blocks but they are like wall and beal… there’s a definite ceiling on their play and that ceiling isn’t very high….

By: Early Bird

Early Bird — Fri, 17 Jan 2020 15:50:53 +0000

Knox’s issues are being too slow, having a bad handle, being lost on offense and defense, being the most passive player ever, not being strong enough, being a mediocre passer, and being terrible at everything else.

He’s a mediocre shooter though, so that’s kinda cool

By: JK47

JK47 — Fri, 17 Jan 2020 15:43:54 +0000

We’re behind the Suns in the timeline because while we were chasing marginal wins with the likes of MegaMaxMelo and Captain PinchPost, the Suns were properly tanking and got a couple of useful young players as a result. The year they drafted Deandre Ayton we drafted the immortal Kevin Knox and his vaunted three-on-three game.

The 2017-2018 Knicks won a completely pointless 29 games and were an unwatchable pile of mediocrity. Shoulda tanked harder.