Comments on: 2019-20 Game Thread: Knicks @ The Fox-less Kings

By: Grocer

Grocer — Mon, 16 Dec 2019 00:39:56 +0000

2 firsts for an extra year is a lot. Especially if they’re actually offering him up for that which to me indicates Toronto knows Ujiri is leaving after next season. And what’s the chance Dolan trades the Mav’s picks and not our own? I think I’d rather have Presti than give up our own picks. Granted, we don’t if know Presti would take the Knicks job. And who would Dolan tap for a one year lame duck job?

By: Z-man

Z-man — Mon, 16 Dec 2019 00:25:44 +0000

I’m not a Presti fan, but he’s a huge step up from Mills.

By: Early Bird

Early Bird — Mon, 16 Dec 2019 00:20:01 +0000

Did Presti ever actually do anything other than luck into Westbrook, Harden, and KD? He also chose Ibaka over Harden for an extension, might have to check the numbers to see if that was a mistake.

He turned Ray Allen into Jeff Green (and our very own Wally)??? Sure he was a rookie then, but still underwhelming haul.

He traded for Dion Waiters.

He traded away Brandon Clarke for… someone?

He seems like he’s often been in the right place at the right time. Clippers needed Paul George to get Kawhi. Rockets inexplicably really wanted Westbrook.

Overall, Presti has failed to do anything despite having 3 of the 6 best players of the last decade fall into his lap, all hitting their primes at the same time. Yes, give me Ujiri.

By: Z-man

Z-man — Mon, 16 Dec 2019 00:01:44 +0000

Two #1’s is a high price. I’d really have to think long and hard about it.

By: Owen

Owen — Sun, 15 Dec 2019 23:58:58 +0000

Giving up a lottery pick would be a heavy price. Isn’t he a free agent post 21? I wouldn’t have a problem giving up a late first and a late second. That seems pretty small beer for starting the process a year early.

By: Bruno Almeida

Bruno Almeida — Sun, 15 Dec 2019 23:25:25 +0000

Yes, if the options are Ujiri for the Dallas picks or Presti for free, I’m taking Ujiri everytime. He has not only brought Toronto up from being a mess of a franchise, but also has shown he knows how to develop talent out of nowhere.

Presti made good moves and built a contender, but he was also dealt the best hand every GM could possibly get and even still it all fell apart. He made some shrewd moves, but then failed to surround Westbrook and KD with the necessary supporting cast, which could have lead to a title even after the Harden trade. He would be an absolutely massive improvement over anyone we’ve had under Dolan, but I’d still go for Ujiri.

By: The Glass Half Rebuilt

The Glass Half Rebuilt — Sun, 15 Dec 2019 23:18:51 +0000

You’d value Masai Ujiri so much more over Sam Presti that you’d trade 2 1s for him?

I think Presti is great, but FWIW I agree. Nick Nurse, Pascal Siakim, Fred Van Vleet, OG Anunoby, and just building a franchise from top to bottom from incompetent to title contender? That guy is the best and it’s not close to me. He took Andrea Bargnani and turned him into assets that eventually helped him land Kawhi Leonard. Presti didn’t miss on a single lottery pick and that’s impressive, but I don’t know if he can pick a coach or if he can build a team around max salary slots.

By: JK47

JK47 — Sun, 15 Dec 2019 23:09:15 +0000

I’d trade the two Dallas 1RPs for Masai. Having a great GM/POBO/Whatever is more valuable than having a couple of 20-30 range picks a few years down the road.

If we were able to do that, it would make the KP trade a home run. Dolan’s Razor says Steve Mills stays around and gives it a go with Mark Jackson for a while though.

By: The Glass Half Rebuilt

The Glass Half Rebuilt — Sun, 15 Dec 2019 23:05:35 +0000

Begley is saying it will cost at least 2 1RPs for Masai Ujiri.

Bondy is saying Sam Presti will be allowed to walk if he so desires.

With that information in mind, do you trade 2 1sts for Masai Ujiri (the Dallas picks preferably) or do you take Presti for free?

By: geo

geo — Sun, 15 Dec 2019 22:11:29 +0000

took me a while to figure out why I couldn’t find the game on league pass – we got us a little national tv broadcast time on NBA tv tonight…

the nuggets can hit shots from outside…murray will probably get 40…we’ll lose by 30…mark it down…

any changes with the starting five?

mike miller appears to be coaching for his very life…I like that…I’ll be disappointed if elf isn’t in there from the start…

mitch seems ready to go in to the starting five also…

not sure if anyone’s noticed – now that randall is cutting back on his dribbling (read: stumbling and fumbling), and, instead running that crazy fullback dive up the middle a lot more – he ain’t turning the ball over every other possesion…

I may be crazy, but, I swear it “looks” like he’s swiping with his hands less and moving his feet more on defense…

haven’t seen morris get himself T’d up in while…maybe, just maybe – we bottomed out there with fiz…

mills must still go, but, maybe we stop switching every second on defense, stop with the stupid zones – and, guys just stay with their man, communicate and cover the arc…

if elf can continue to help distribute, and, make a layup…who knows, maybe we’re more like a .33% winning kind of team and less like whatever it is we are now, maybe one out of every five games…

I think after about the 7th or 8th loss in a row – I started thinking of that sports shrink who would talk with the new york knights after all their losses…sometimes the losing seems like it’ll never end…