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		By: JK47		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Nov 2019 15:21:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This team is crummy in the exact ways I expected.

The guard play is execrable, it’s a low eFG% team because there are no easy buckets, and the offensive rebounding doesn’t offset all of that enough. End result: 29th in offensive rating, 29th in eFG%.

The defense is merely bad and not horrible but we also haven’t faced many top offensive teams yet. Yesterday against a struggling Kings team the defense was nonexistent early and then the game got out of hand.

Bad team, bad concept of a team, should have just stuck with a full youth movement and tried to take on bad contracts for assets as anyone with a brain could have seen coming from ten miles away.

Fire everybody.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This team is crummy in the exact ways I expected.</p>
<p>The guard play is execrable, it’s a low eFG% team because there are no easy buckets, and the offensive rebounding doesn’t offset all of that enough. End result: 29th in offensive rating, 29th in eFG%.</p>
<p>The defense is merely bad and not horrible but we also haven’t faced many top offensive teams yet. Yesterday against a struggling Kings team the defense was nonexistent early and then the game got out of hand.</p>
<p>Bad team, bad concept of a team, should have just stuck with a full youth movement and tried to take on bad contracts for assets as anyone with a brain could have seen coming from ten miles away.</p>
<p>Fire everybody.</p>
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		By: KnickfaninNJ		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Nov 2019 14:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[That was such a depressing game. Even Clyde was calling out the offense for standing around.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was such a depressing game. Even Clyde was calling out the offense for standing around.</p>
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		By: Stratomatic: Frequently wrong, but never in doubt		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Nov 2019 14:28:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@209

It&#039;s all monumentally insane. 

That&#039;s why I am always complaining about these guys.

ALL managements occasionally give out a bad contract or make a draft error.  You want to at least see signs that they are trying to find players that play both sides of the ball well or that are great role players while they are searching for the two superstar scorers you&#039;ll need to contend.  Then you want to see that they can fit pieces together so the players compliment each other and make the TEAM better than the individuals.   Our management has tended to overvalue scoring relative to defense and can&#039;t even fit the offensive side together properly, let alone both sides.

In the old days D&#039;Antoni overvalued offense, but he could put 5 mediocre players on the court and the offense would be pretty good because it was all coherent.   Same thing with Tibs and defense.  

If you know what you are doing you can make a team better than the individuals.  If you actually have good two way players then you can really play some ball. But you have to know what you are doing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@209</p>
<p>It&#8217;s all monumentally insane. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s why I am always complaining about these guys.</p>
<p>ALL managements occasionally give out a bad contract or make a draft error.  You want to at least see signs that they are trying to find players that play both sides of the ball well or that are great role players while they are searching for the two superstar scorers you&#8217;ll need to contend.  Then you want to see that they can fit pieces together so the players compliment each other and make the TEAM better than the individuals.   Our management has tended to overvalue scoring relative to defense and can&#8217;t even fit the offensive side together properly, let alone both sides.</p>
<p>In the old days D&#8217;Antoni overvalued offense, but he could put 5 mediocre players on the court and the offense would be pretty good because it was all coherent.   Same thing with Tibs and defense.  </p>
<p>If you know what you are doing you can make a team better than the individuals.  If you actually have good two way players then you can really play some ball. But you have to know what you are doing.</p>
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		By: Owen		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Nov 2019 14:16:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;It’s maddening. It’s absolutely maddening.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

We can&#039;t lose Cronin people. I have seen what his jinxes can do when he is in a good mood. Things could get super ugly if he goes rogue.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It’s maddening. It’s absolutely maddening.</p></blockquote>
<p>We can&#8217;t lose Cronin people. I have seen what his jinxes can do when he is in a good mood. Things could get super ugly if he goes rogue.</p>
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		By: Stratomatic: Frequently wrong, but never in doubt		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Nov 2019 14:07:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@206 

I pretty much agree with all of that.

I&#039;ve been a Randle fan for a long time and was dying to pair him with KP (who incidentally looked much better again last night).  I also love Mitch long term. But I warned before the season that Mitch/Randle might not be ideal and without having good spacing anywhere else, it has been even worse than I feared.  I don&#039;t see this an easy fix.  We need shooters, but most of our shooters either don&#039;t fit or are bad in other ways.  The team construction is terrible even though we have some pretty good individual pieces. 

I would give Dotson a shot at some point.  Maybe he&#039;s not 100%, but when he is he can knock down open 3s and he can also defend.  I just have no idea how to put a coherent set of 5 players on the court at the same time.  

We are going to have to make some trades.  That&#039;s scary. lol]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@206 </p>
<p>I pretty much agree with all of that.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been a Randle fan for a long time and was dying to pair him with KP (who incidentally looked much better again last night).  I also love Mitch long term. But I warned before the season that Mitch/Randle might not be ideal and without having good spacing anywhere else, it has been even worse than I feared.  I don&#8217;t see this an easy fix.  We need shooters, but most of our shooters either don&#8217;t fit or are bad in other ways.  The team construction is terrible even though we have some pretty good individual pieces. </p>
<p>I would give Dotson a shot at some point.  Maybe he&#8217;s not 100%, but when he is he can knock down open 3s and he can also defend.  I just have no idea how to put a coherent set of 5 players on the court at the same time.  </p>
<p>We are going to have to make some trades.  That&#8217;s scary. lol</p>
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		By: Brian Cronin		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Nov 2019 13:59:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://knickerblogger.net/2019/11/2019-20-game-thread-knicks-vs-kings/#comment-676497&quot;&gt;bobneptune&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Play Mitch @5, and Barrett @3 and Knox @4 34 minutes a game with Frank/Dotson splitting @2 and Payton and DSJr splitting @1.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Just reflect on how insane it is that while the entire NBA is going small, the Knicks use a lottery pick to draft a really good point forward (a year after using a lottery pick to draft a guy whose best position is probably a small ball 4) and then pretty much force him into the backcourt by signing two power forwards who need to play and one power forward/backup center who needs to play, plus another power forward/center just for the heck of it. It&#039;s maddening. It&#039;s absolutely maddening.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://knickerblogger.net/2019/11/2019-20-game-thread-knicks-vs-kings/#comment-676497">bobneptune</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>Play Mitch @5, and Barrett @3 and Knox @4 34 minutes a game with Frank/Dotson splitting @2 and Payton and DSJr splitting @1.</p></blockquote>
<p>Just reflect on how insane it is that while the entire NBA is going small, the Knicks use a lottery pick to draft a really good point forward (a year after using a lottery pick to draft a guy whose best position is probably a small ball 4) and then pretty much force him into the backcourt by signing two power forwards who need to play and one power forward/backup center who needs to play, plus another power forward/center just for the heck of it. It&#8217;s maddening. It&#8217;s absolutely maddening.</p>
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		By: Brian Cronin		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Nov 2019 13:54:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://knickerblogger.net/2019/11/2019-20-game-thread-knicks-vs-kings/#comment-676480&quot;&gt;Donnie Walsh&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;blockquote&gt;What he should have said was Cuttino Mobley once averaged 42 minutes per game and lived to tell about it.

&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Well done. That was an obscure ass joke. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://knickerblogger.net/2019/11/2019-20-game-thread-knicks-vs-kings/#comment-676480">Donnie Walsh</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>What he should have said was Cuttino Mobley once averaged 42 minutes per game and lived to tell about it.</p>
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<p>Well done. That was an obscure ass joke. </p>
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		By: Stratomatic: Frequently wrong, but never in doubt		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Nov 2019 13:54:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m sure someone has studied the impact of playing a lot of minutes on injuries, productivity over the course of the season, length of career etc..   I don&#039;t trust most of the statisticians to control for all the variables and actually get the right answer because each player is different, but I think it was the Spurs that more or less started the load management trend because they were focused on peaking for the playoffs and extending careers.  I sort of trust them.  I&#039;m not so sure the experience gain from playing Barrett an extra 5-6 minutes in a blowout loss is enough to offset any downsides that might exist.  I&#039;d way rather he was in the gym shooting extra FTs in practice with that energy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure someone has studied the impact of playing a lot of minutes on injuries, productivity over the course of the season, length of career etc..   I don&#8217;t trust most of the statisticians to control for all the variables and actually get the right answer because each player is different, but I think it was the Spurs that more or less started the load management trend because they were focused on peaking for the playoffs and extending careers.  I sort of trust them.  I&#8217;m not so sure the experience gain from playing Barrett an extra 5-6 minutes in a blowout loss is enough to offset any downsides that might exist.  I&#8217;d way rather he was in the gym shooting extra FTs in practice with that energy.</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Nov 2019 13:41:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The roster construction is sooooo bad on this team.

There is one legit center (mitch) who should get as many minutes as he can handle. There are 5 power forwards and 4 of therm &quot;know&quot; they deserve minutes (portis , Randle, Knox, Morris). There are 2 small forwards Iggy (who still has peach fuzz on his ass) and Barrett who is somehow playing BOTH back court positions???

I am happy to keep Gibson as a back up 4/5 and put Randle/Portis/Morris on the block and hope to get a first round draft pick from some contender for Randle and Morris (perfectly reasonable) and whatever for Portis if anything is available. If nothing is available he can back up 4/5 this year.

Play Mitch @5, and Barrett @3 and Knox @4  34 minutes a game with Frank/Dotson splitting @2 and Payton and DSJr splitting @1.

It looks as we have 2 sure long term cogs and let the chips fall where they make with the others and see who can play and who cannot. Take your 4 #1&#039;s (ours very high) into next year&#039;s draft and try to draft well and build at team. Get someone in here who can actually coach.

The only great team ever for the Knicks (the late 60&#039;s -70&#039;s team was built over 4-5 drafts.... then key trades were made).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The roster construction is sooooo bad on this team.</p>
<p>There is one legit center (mitch) who should get as many minutes as he can handle. There are 5 power forwards and 4 of therm &#8220;know&#8221; they deserve minutes (portis , Randle, Knox, Morris). There are 2 small forwards Iggy (who still has peach fuzz on his ass) and Barrett who is somehow playing BOTH back court positions???</p>
<p>I am happy to keep Gibson as a back up 4/5 and put Randle/Portis/Morris on the block and hope to get a first round draft pick from some contender for Randle and Morris (perfectly reasonable) and whatever for Portis if anything is available. If nothing is available he can back up 4/5 this year.</p>
<p>Play Mitch @5, and Barrett @3 and Knox @4  34 minutes a game with Frank/Dotson splitting @2 and Payton and DSJr splitting @1.</p>
<p>It looks as we have 2 sure long term cogs and let the chips fall where they make with the others and see who can play and who cannot. Take your 4 #1&#8217;s (ours very high) into next year&#8217;s draft and try to draft well and build at team. Get someone in here who can actually coach.</p>
<p>The only great team ever for the Knicks (the late 60&#8217;s -70&#8217;s team was built over 4-5 drafts&#8230;. then key trades were made).</p>
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		By: Hubert		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Nov 2019 12:54:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Frank and Barrett looked ok together in Boston. They even got a nice write-up by Hahn.  Seemed like Frank would finally get some backing from the organization.  Then Fiz threw the towel in on him after 2 fouls to for a 4 PF lineup with no PG.  

Who wants to bet Fragile Frank looks terrible in our next game?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank and Barrett looked ok together in Boston. They even got a nice write-up by Hahn.  Seemed like Frank would finally get some backing from the organization.  Then Fiz threw the towel in on him after 2 fouls to for a 4 PF lineup with no PG.  </p>
<p>Who wants to bet Fragile Frank looks terrible in our next game?</p>
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