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		By: Oaktrees		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Oaktrees]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Nov 2019 17:46:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Fuck it, let&#039;s let Clyde coach]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fuck it, let&#8217;s let Clyde coach</p>
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		By: Hubert		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hubert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Nov 2019 17:14:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Who said Fizdale is a better coach than Jackson? &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Quite possibly every single poster on this board in the summer of 2017.  They were wrong then, and they&#039;re also wrong now when they think we&#039;re better off with &quot;any random assistant&quot; because Jackson is &quot;an abjectly terrible coach.&quot;  There&#039;s a blindness on this subject because it intersects on a ven diagram with another circle that makes people very passionate.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Who said Fizdale is a better coach than Jackson? </p></blockquote>
<p>Quite possibly every single poster on this board in the summer of 2017.  They were wrong then, and they&#8217;re also wrong now when they think we&#8217;re better off with &#8220;any random assistant&#8221; because Jackson is &#8220;an abjectly terrible coach.&#8221;  There&#8217;s a blindness on this subject because it intersects on a ven diagram with another circle that makes people very passionate.</p>
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		By: Dink		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dink]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Nov 2019 17:01:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;David Fizdale needs an offensive coordinator, a defensive coordinator, a communications liaison, and someone to diagram plays out of a time out. And there are people who won’t admit that Jackson would have been a much better coach of this team.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Who said Fizdale is a better coach than Jackson? You&#039;re manufacturing a take out of thin air.

It&#039;s possible Fiz and Jackson are both terrible coaches. And going by this thread, most people here believe that to be true.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>David Fizdale needs an offensive coordinator, a defensive coordinator, a communications liaison, and someone to diagram plays out of a time out. And there are people who won’t admit that Jackson would have been a much better coach of this team.</p></blockquote>
<p>Who said Fizdale is a better coach than Jackson? You&#8217;re manufacturing a take out of thin air.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s possible Fiz and Jackson are both terrible coaches. And going by this thread, most people here believe that to be true.</p>
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		By: Hubert		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hubert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Nov 2019 16:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;why is it personal bias that clouds ppl’s judgement about mark jackson? it’s pretty clear that he didn’t have a great handle on the talents of his team&lt;/blockquote&gt;

He was a coach that exhibited excellent mentorship skills and was great at developing a defensive system for a talented young team.  He absolutely is the kind of coach that needs an offensive coordinator and might not be able to take you further than the mezzanine.  He was ill suited to get the most offensively out of one of the best teams of all time.  When he realized he was getting fired, he melted down.  He was paranoid, but they were really after him, too.  

His records, in order, were: 23-43, 47-35, 51-31.  

How does that track record illicit the vitriol in this thread if it is only about basketball?  

David Fizdale needs an offensive coordinator, a defensive coordinator, a communications liaison, and someone to diagram plays out of a time out.  He has lost 73 out of 92 games and we have yet to find a positive in ANY OF THEM.   There has literally not been a game where it looked like Fizdale was adding value or in the process of developing something or someone. 

And there are people who won&#039;t admit that Jackson would have been a much better coach of this team?  Yeah, I think that&#039;s bias.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>why is it personal bias that clouds ppl’s judgement about mark jackson? it’s pretty clear that he didn’t have a great handle on the talents of his team</p></blockquote>
<p>He was a coach that exhibited excellent mentorship skills and was great at developing a defensive system for a talented young team.  He absolutely is the kind of coach that needs an offensive coordinator and might not be able to take you further than the mezzanine.  He was ill suited to get the most offensively out of one of the best teams of all time.  When he realized he was getting fired, he melted down.  He was paranoid, but they were really after him, too.  </p>
<p>His records, in order, were: 23-43, 47-35, 51-31.  </p>
<p>How does that track record illicit the vitriol in this thread if it is only about basketball?  </p>
<p>David Fizdale needs an offensive coordinator, a defensive coordinator, a communications liaison, and someone to diagram plays out of a time out.  He has lost 73 out of 92 games and we have yet to find a positive in ANY OF THEM.   There has literally not been a game where it looked like Fizdale was adding value or in the process of developing something or someone. </p>
<p>And there are people who won&#8217;t admit that Jackson would have been a much better coach of this team?  Yeah, I think that&#8217;s bias.</p>
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		By: djphan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Nov 2019 16:34:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[why is it personal bias that clouds ppl&#039;s judgement about mark jackson?  it&#039;s pretty clear that he didn&#039;t have a great handle on the talents of his team....  that&#039;s why i asked why you thought jackson was a good coach.... you stated his record and that he would make this team better without offering any reason why....  

he tried to play draymond at SF and turned a team of talented passers into a iso heavy stagnant offense....  just like how you can probably blame fizdale when multiple veteran players have tanked under his watch this season... it&#039;s not a coincidence that everyone saw huge jumps in production when jackson left....  

that&#039;s not to mention the drama that he left behind which isn&#039;t good but i don&#039;t pay any mind to.... i can give fizdale a pass on the memphis drama also... but what&#039;s more important than anything is what you&#039;re doing on the court... and on the court jackson wasn&#039;t good....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why is it personal bias that clouds ppl&#8217;s judgement about mark jackson?  it&#8217;s pretty clear that he didn&#8217;t have a great handle on the talents of his team&#8230;.  that&#8217;s why i asked why you thought jackson was a good coach&#8230;. you stated his record and that he would make this team better without offering any reason why&#8230;.  </p>
<p>he tried to play draymond at SF and turned a team of talented passers into a iso heavy stagnant offense&#8230;.  just like how you can probably blame fizdale when multiple veteran players have tanked under his watch this season&#8230; it&#8217;s not a coincidence that everyone saw huge jumps in production when jackson left&#8230;.  </p>
<p>that&#8217;s not to mention the drama that he left behind which isn&#8217;t good but i don&#8217;t pay any mind to&#8230;. i can give fizdale a pass on the memphis drama also&#8230; but what&#8217;s more important than anything is what you&#8217;re doing on the court&#8230; and on the court jackson wasn&#8217;t good&#8230;.</p>
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		By: bobneptune		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bobneptune]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Nov 2019 16:33:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;He was also let go at the exact point some of the young players he was developing were reaching their prime age.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Pleeeeezzzze with this &quot;they all, all of a sudden got better just the exact second Jackson left&quot;.

Kerr took almost exactly the same core 8 and won 16 more games and the title the following year. However.... he played Draymond 10 mpg more and D Lee 13 minutes a game less.....

Their O ratting went from 14 to 2 and their D rating went from 4 to 1.... but Jackson was a terrific coach..... yeah right.... forget all the other internecine stuff.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>He was also let go at the exact point some of the young players he was developing were reaching their prime age.</p></blockquote>
<p>Pleeeeezzzze with this &#8220;they all, all of a sudden got better just the exact second Jackson left&#8221;.</p>
<p>Kerr took almost exactly the same core 8 and won 16 more games and the title the following year. However&#8230;. he played Draymond 10 mpg more and D Lee 13 minutes a game less&#8230;..</p>
<p>Their O ratting went from 14 to 2 and their D rating went from 4 to 1&#8230;. but Jackson was a terrific coach&#8230;.. yeah right&#8230;. forget all the other internecine stuff.</p>
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		By: thenoblefacehumper		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[thenoblefacehumper]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Nov 2019 16:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Holy shit, there are people arguing for Mark fucking Jackson? My god, as much as we all yell at each other here I thought there were at least a few things about which literally everyone agreed. Don’t re-hire Isiah Thomas. Don’t trade for Andrew Wiggins. Don’t trade RJ and Mitch for John Wall. Things like that. I absolutely thought “don’t hire MARK JACKSON” was in that category.

I guess we have Phil Jackson defenders, so nothing should surprise me, but man a Mark Jackson hire might be the most easily foreseeable disaster in the history of a team that has engaged in nothing but easily foreseeable disasters for twenty years.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holy shit, there are people arguing for Mark fucking Jackson? My god, as much as we all yell at each other here I thought there were at least a few things about which literally everyone agreed. Don’t re-hire Isiah Thomas. Don’t trade for Andrew Wiggins. Don’t trade RJ and Mitch for John Wall. Things like that. I absolutely thought “don’t hire MARK JACKSON” was in that category.</p>
<p>I guess we have Phil Jackson defenders, so nothing should surprise me, but man a Mark Jackson hire might be the most easily foreseeable disaster in the history of a team that has engaged in nothing but easily foreseeable disasters for twenty years.</p>
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		By: Stratomatic: Frequently wrong, but never in doubt		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stratomatic: Frequently wrong, but never in doubt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Nov 2019 16:15:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Most of those accounts are on reddit and owned by people who would fire you from their startup if they knew you were Republican. It’s zealous group think that has nothing to do with basketball.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

If we want to know the truth, we&#039;d probably have to ask all the players off the record.  On the record most of them say they liked him, gave him credit for changing the culture from one where defense was an afterthought to one where it was requirement to play. Even Kerr gave him credit for that defensive culture change.  Curry was publicly upset when he was fired. 
He was also let go at the exact point some of the young players he was developing were reaching their prime age.  

The truth is probably that he was an average coach, very difficult to deal with, said some things publicly that made it difficult to keep him employed in that market,  but was nowhere near the nightmare reputation he has inherited from dimwits on the internet that know little about basketball but don&#039;t like him on a personal level for a variety of reasons.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Most of those accounts are on reddit and owned by people who would fire you from their startup if they knew you were Republican. It’s zealous group think that has nothing to do with basketball.</p></blockquote>
<p>If we want to know the truth, we&#8217;d probably have to ask all the players off the record.  On the record most of them say they liked him, gave him credit for changing the culture from one where defense was an afterthought to one where it was requirement to play. Even Kerr gave him credit for that defensive culture change.  Curry was publicly upset when he was fired.<br />
He was also let go at the exact point some of the young players he was developing were reaching their prime age.  </p>
<p>The truth is probably that he was an average coach, very difficult to deal with, said some things publicly that made it difficult to keep him employed in that market,  but was nowhere near the nightmare reputation he has inherited from dimwits on the internet that know little about basketball but don&#8217;t like him on a personal level for a variety of reasons.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hubert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Nov 2019 16:01:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[We probably don&#039;t even have to argue this.  I don&#039;t see Mills having better options or having the fortitude to promote Miller or Smart, so we&#039;ll most likely find out ourselves.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We probably don&#8217;t even have to argue this.  I don&#8217;t see Mills having better options or having the fortitude to promote Miller or Smart, so we&#8217;ll most likely find out ourselves.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hubert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Nov 2019 15:56:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;By many accounts, Mark Jackson is not only an abjectly shitty basketball coach&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Most of those accounts are on reddit and owned by people who would fire you from their startup if they knew you were Republican.  It&#039;s zealous group think that has nothing to do with basketball.  

He&#039;s not without major flaws but if anyone thinks he wouldn&#039;t have done better than David Fizdale, or that Becky Hammon can do a better job with this team, just admit it&#039;s your personal bias and move on.  It&#039;s ok to say &quot;I hate the guy because I read online that he is a bigot&quot; but at least admit he did a decent job getting the warriors from the basement to the mezzanine.  And that&#039;s precisely the route we need someone to navigate.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>By many accounts, Mark Jackson is not only an abjectly shitty basketball coach</p></blockquote>
<p>Most of those accounts are on reddit and owned by people who would fire you from their startup if they knew you were Republican.  It&#8217;s zealous group think that has nothing to do with basketball.  </p>
<p>He&#8217;s not without major flaws but if anyone thinks he wouldn&#8217;t have done better than David Fizdale, or that Becky Hammon can do a better job with this team, just admit it&#8217;s your personal bias and move on.  It&#8217;s ok to say &#8220;I hate the guy because I read online that he is a bigot&#8221; but at least admit he did a decent job getting the warriors from the basement to the mezzanine.  And that&#8217;s precisely the route we need someone to navigate.</p>
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