if you own the bridge into town you own the bridge.

Should say “you own the town.”

Say you get libertarianism implemented. How does anyone get ahead if they’re born poor? The roads are all private (and any one can refuse service to anyone else) so you’ve got no way to leave the area you were born in unless you’re allowed to. Most small one employer towns eventually devolve into company towns eventually, with company script and company housing and jobs that don’t pay enough to cover the cost of living so folks spend their entire lives in debt so that even if they could find a way to leave they can’t because they owe too much to the employer. The increase in transport costs from all the pay roads mean a huge increase in the costs of goods that have to travel so you see a big exodus from larger cities that would otherwise be insulated from that sort of small town problem. There’s no public education so you’ve got no access to knowledge, no way to educate yourself out of the situation. It looks a lot like the gilded age, except without a frontier you can run off to and the opportunities that affords. And of course, it’s illegal to organize to try and better your situation because that’s tantamount to government.

Private roads with tolls exist

Adios freedom of movement. Also, if you own the bridge into town you own the bridge.

see Elon Musk

SpaceX is funded pretty explicitly by government subsidy as per Musk himself.

Private pharm companies do medical research so they can develop new drugs to sell

With a heavy public funding aspect.

There’s a misconception that because we want Government out out of X, that means we don’t want X.

Libertarianism has always struck me as replacing government control with corporate control. The end result is basically neo-feudalism. Heavily decentralized with local fiefdoms controlling most of people’s lives.

Anyone who doubts Clarke at this point doesn’t know shit about basketball

first time watching him play…looks like a young ready made four, active guy…think I saw him make a three too…seems a lot stronger than he looks…I don’t know – maybe he could play center…

why wouldn’t memphis trade us him for knox, heck, we could throw in DSJ and frank…

I wonder what it would have taken to get in position to grab him…

him and mitch together would be fun for a lot of years…

the grizz hung on about 2 seasons too long, but, they have really made a nice pivot this year…

Private pharm companies do medical research so they can develop new drugs to sell

There’s a misconception that because we want Government out out of X, that means we don’t want X.

So a pharma company. It’s run by a board, which represents the owners, and selects a CEO and other suits. Isn’t this structure just like a government? These guys have a pretty strong control over their employees. In many cases as strong as a national government does, or stronger. So what have you achieved?

Sure, an employee can resign but which form of governance would be used by his next employer? And if you’re saying the employee can resign again and again, and everyone can be on their own, you’re basically saying no to any effort to organize. Which brings me back to my original question, how do you get organized?

I’m just answering a civil question in a civil manner. Can we be civil to each other and avoid personal insults?

I’m in.

New name for this site: Knickerboxer

I would rather that than Knickerpoly. Thank you to the boxing community for reeling this thread back to sports.

Z-Man Wrote: My father was a professional heavyweight boxer back in the day. He co-holds a prestigious record that will never be broken.

Hmm… son of a Jewish heavyweight boxer…OMG Z-Man is Jethro Bodine from the Beverly Hillbillies (Max Baer Jr).