Comments on: Knicks Morning News (2019.07.01)

By: Max

Max — Mon, 01 Jul 2019 12:57:11 +0000

There’s a new thread 🙂

By: KnickfaninNJ

KnickfaninNJ — Mon, 01 Jul 2019 12:50:41 +0000

I guess if you have to pay the guy some money, it’s not technically a team option (since a team option would strictly be a yes or no deal).

This is probably better than a team option. If you want to trade someone with an option you have to pick up the option. So then the team taking him would be on the hook for his entire salary. But that is not case with a partial guarantee. Only the guaranteed part counts against the cap until the guarantee is exercised

I like the Randle signing. The Portis one is ok because at least he is quite young and could improve. The Bullock signing I have no clue. I hate the Gibson signing and have no idea why anyone is meh about it.

By: wetbandit

wetbandit — Mon, 01 Jul 2019 12:49:11 +0000

Like a lot of us said yesterday before the news, we weren’t going to get upset if the Knicks whiffed on Durant/Kawhi/Kyrie
**whisper: because honestly why the fuck would they come anyway???**
… it was in failing at Plan B, and signing a guy like Cousins or Harris for long term contracts, and they didn’t.
Also, a lot of people assume renting out cap space in an epic offseason of cap space would yield picks… I doubt that, and we have no proof of it ever existing.
So far, all they did was get two marginal upside guys who happen to play power forward (on offense), and one old barking defensive vet (I think this was necessary-that’s why I wanted Beverley) who plays the same position, but probably won’t play much.
How’s this- I think players didn’t want to come because we suck. We couldn’t get a guy like Beverley or Barea if we tried, much less Durant. We had to overpay to get the guys we got. I trust that Perry knew who was gettable weeks ago.
But we didn’t lock up anyone past two years. No one on max. No one a washed up vet taking too many minutes and money from young players. And no trades giving up assets. Maybe things aren’t so bad?

By: Totes McGoats as Totes McGoats

Totes McGoats as Totes McGoats — Mon, 01 Jul 2019 12:45:06 +0000

Sorry Totes, this team is a loooooong way from a low seed playoff team.
Locks:
Raps
Bucks
Sixers
Celts

Likely:
Nets
Indy

Will duke it out for the last 2 seeds:
Pistons
Magic
Heat
Atlanta

Sure lottery teams:
Knicks
Bulls
Cavs
Wizards
Hornets

Dragic doesn’t move the needle.

I dunno, Z. Maybe I have too much hope for the Fiz’ Kids, but I think adding Dragic to what we have puts us ahead of the sure lottery teams and good enough to Duke it out for the last 2 seeds with the team you listed. Lookin at that, I think I may need to temper my hopes lol. Miami and Detroit are gonna be tough to beat out for the 7-8 spot, but there’s at least a good chance.

I think Atlanta is gonna surprise this season.

By: Grocer

Grocer — Mon, 01 Jul 2019 12:43:31 +0000

But he had to choose from teams that had cap space and wanted the GSW pick. If we had agreed to cut him, he could have gone to almost any team in the league. He also could have asked us to wait to cut him to let the season play out and then choose a team.

I guess, but I don’t think we were part of the conversation at all. “Where would you like to go? That’s who we’ll talk to.” Dunno how you can give the FO shit for it, is what I am saying.

The broader point is that there was a lot of chatter about using cap space to get picks, but that’s only happened once so far. I think maybe we misread the market on this one.

By: wetbandit

wetbandit — Mon, 01 Jul 2019 12:38:24 +0000

There goes Satoransky… to the Bulls

By: chriskZIPCODE

chriskZIPCODE — Mon, 01 Jul 2019 12:23:42 +0000

Not fair to blast us on not offering KD the max. He wasn’t going to take it anyway, unless it included Kyree, and squeezed in Deandre.

By: Max

Max — Mon, 01 Jul 2019 12:22:02 +0000

Pelicans get Favors! :-O

Griff’s trying straight for the playoffs…

By: Max

Max — Mon, 01 Jul 2019 12:20:20 +0000

Randle is a force offensively (and young), Bullock could be useful,
but with that money I’d rather have Ed Davis (2YR/10M from Utah) and Satoransky than Gibson and Portis.

By: Name is Bron - James Bron

Name is Bron - James Bron — Mon, 01 Jul 2019 12:16:08 +0000

He did that anyway without any uncertainty? I’m just saying, renting out cap space for picks doesn’t look like a thing so far. Everywhere Leonard could go can sign him outright. I guess we’ll see if there are anymore of these deals.

But he had to choose from teams that had cap space and wanted the GSW pick. If we had agreed to cut him, he could have gone to almost any team in the league. He also could have asked us to wait to cut him to let the season play out and then choose a team.

Agree that there may be no more of those deals. I think guys like Satoransky or Tyus Jones could be acquired with remaining cap so I’m not that upset. Of course, FO is just gonna throw money at Payton to add to our ancient or sub par group of new Knicks. Another course would be to hold cap since there are often better deals at trade deadline. The problem is FO is not gonna choose any of the better options.