Comments on: Knicks Morning News (2019.06.23)

By: KnickfaninNJ

KnickfaninNJ — Mon, 24 Jun 2019 11:59:08 +0000

Z-man, thanks. He’s still on his rookie contract. He’s signed for this coming year for about $7m and there is a team option for$8.9m. I agree, getting him would be like Hezonja II.

By: Z-man

Z-man — Mon, 24 Jun 2019 10:31:02 +0000

As to chemistry, Morey stands out as a GM who never seemed to care less about chemistry and I think it cost him in the long run. Looks like the Rockets window has closed and they are in cap hell right now.

By: Z-man

Z-man — Mon, 24 Jun 2019 10:29:04 +0000

But again, Russell improved, but is still mediocre by WS48 and his TS% is, as ptmilo pointed out, a noisy conflation with significant potential for regression. He’s also had at least two concerning off-court issues. And although yes, Kyrie is the better and more dependable player by far numbers-wise, he is also injury prone and a documented locker room cancer relative to the chemistry that the Nets have built.

It wouldn’t be a terrible move, but there is a reasonable probability that he regresses to the point of being immovable. In terms of risk, I’d maybe compare it to maxing Jeremy Lin if he were eligible when Morey signed him to that poison pill. Less injury risk but more $ and off-court risk.

By: JK47

JK47 — Mon, 24 Jun 2019 05:43:42 +0000

This is like advanced stat abuse here trying to compare a 22-year old PG to dunk-and-rebound frontcourt guys. I mean you have to have at least a little bit of nuance when you’re looking at stats.

Fred VanVleet had a .443 TS% as a 22-year old, I think I’d rather have 22-year old D’Lo over 22-year old VanVleet.

By: djphan

djphan — Mon, 24 Jun 2019 04:47:53 +0000

lets just say that none of those guys you listed are neither better bor nore available nor younger than russell….

i mean if you want to argue that youd rather have montrez harrell than dlo… then this discussion is not gonna be all that productive.. the only one you might be able to squint and make a case for is capela… but bigs like capela are not all that valuable…

if u want to base this on purely advanced stats theres probably 30 or so pf/c’s who probably outrate dlo themselves… but i hope you realize a guy with russells skills is a lot more scarce than those other guys…

ill let you try again…

By: Bruno Almeida

Bruno Almeida — Mon, 24 Jun 2019 04:32:33 +0000

I’m not in love with Russell, I just think it can be a sensible move with a good chance to pay off. And yes, the injury is what soured me the most on Porzingis. Also, Russell has been steadily improving while KP, who admittedly started his career at a better level, has shown no improvement specially offensively… he was the same player in his 3rd year as he was in his first, just with higher usage and thus higher counting stats and a slight improvement in block rate. To pay a young player a max I want to see improvement, and I just didn’t see it with Porzingis.

By: bobneptune

bobneptune — Mon, 24 Jun 2019 04:30:03 +0000

but who was the last rfa that was as good and as young and as available as russell? i’ll wait….

Not to paraphrase William Jefferson Clinton, but I guess that rides on what your definition of “good” is 🙂

Last year Aaron Gordon, Clint Capella, Montrezl Harrell, Jokic , van vlett were RFAs and only Jokic got the max extension and none of the others got close to it. I’m assuming you could have shook the other 4 loose with a max extension and EVERY ONE OF THEM HAD FAR BETTER ADVANCED STATS AS D’AR….

Enough waiting?????

https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.fcgi?request=1&sum=1&player_id1_hint=D%27Angelo+Russell&player_id1_select=D%27Angelo+Russell&y1=2019&player_id1=russeda01&idx=players&player_id2_hint=Aaron+Gordon&player_id2_select=Aaron+Gordon&y2=2018&player_id2=gordoaa01&idx=players&player_id3_hint=Clint+Capela&player_id3_select=Clint+Capela&y3=2018&player_id3=capelca01&idx=players&player_id4_hint=Montrezl+Harrell&player_id4_select=Montrezl+Harrell&y4=2018&player_id4=harremo01&idx=players&player_id5_hint=Nikola+Jokic&player_id5_select=Nikola+Jokic&y5=2018&player_id5=jokicni01&idx=players&player_id6_hint=Fred+VanVleet&player_id6_select=Fred+VanVleet&y6=2018&player_id6=vanvlfr01&idx=players

By: JK47

JK47 — Mon, 24 Jun 2019 03:58:18 +0000

I know everyone here hates the notion of having 70M in open cap space with nothing to fill it with if the top 3 don’t want to come. Well the 70 M isn’t like a trade exception that expires. You can do something (creative?) with it when you see fit.

Definitely agree with this, and this is where Knick front offices in the past have routinely let us down. Creative use of salary cap space is, uh, not a big part of what we do around here. The Knicks do have good flexibility right now, and they should be making moves that preserve that flexibility.

By: djphan

djphan — Mon, 24 Jun 2019 03:55:33 +0000

the tmac comparison isn’t perfect…. but who was the last rfa that was as good and as young and as available as russell? i’ll wait….

By: ClashFan

ClashFan — Mon, 24 Jun 2019 03:50:56 +0000

Lively discussion.

Trust the Process! Play the Kids! Cap Space for Rent!

But yeah, they’re going to max KD.