Comments on: Knicks Morning News (2019.03.15)

By: bobneptune

bobneptune — Sat, 16 Mar 2019 00:25:18 +0000

Over at the Giants blog they’re discussing the merits of BPM vs WP48

Would you prefer more discussion of how big a putz Dolan is or maybe if racist fans should be ejected from Jazz games for calling Westbrook a “boy”.

It is pretty funny how a meme about a GM get’s pushed by the media when people criticize him for choosing a guy that lead the entire NFL in yards from scrimmage, caught 91 balls, was second in the league in rushing averaging 5.0 YPC behind the arguably worst O line in the NFL and offensive ROY in the NFL . Oh… he was also first team all-NFL by PFF and the SN.

Yeah…. bad move GM….. LOL Bradley Chubb who couldn’t crack the top 10 in sacks in the NFL even with Von Miller being double teamed every play. Chubb wasn’t even DROY

By: Nick C.

Nick C. — Sat, 16 Mar 2019 00:17:27 +0000

I agree with JK . I always found it odd that for the first dozen plus years of their careers Marino was considered better, then Terrell Davis happened Denver won 2 SBs and Elway was considered better by many. It had been Marino or Montana and then it wasn’t.

By: ptmilo

ptmilo — Sat, 16 Mar 2019 00:14:59 +0000

Would the NFL line movement be skewed by scoring coming in 3s and 7s rather than the NBA’s 1, 2 and 3s?

short answer is no

By: JK47

JK47 — Sat, 16 Mar 2019 00:08:58 +0000

Marino was hands down better than Elway.

By: Nick C.

Nick C. — Sat, 16 Mar 2019 00:08:46 +0000

Would the NFL line movement be skewed by scoring coming in 3s and 7s rather than the NBA’s 1, 2 and 3s?

By: d-mar

d-mar — Sat, 16 Mar 2019 00:01:42 +0000

Over at the Giants blog they’re discussing the merits of BPM vs WP48

By: ptmilo

ptmilo — Fri, 15 Mar 2019 23:55:20 +0000

the injury/suspension line movement seems to show that betting markets generally favor elite quarterbacks over everyone else, even most nba stars. a top 5 qb injury is usually worth 6-8 pts in the betting line. no other position moves the line more than a point or so if that, even from pro bowl level players. at best you might get 2 points from an all time defender or skill player. the nba stars rarely move the line as much as elite qbs. if prime aaron rodgers is worth 7, prime cp3 moves it like 3-4. harden, giannis, lebron maybe 5. the line differentials map pretty closely to win probability. i don’t follow nfl betting as closely as nba, but my impression is these spreads haven’t changed much. if berri is right that quarterbacking is substantially overrated, seems like there’s a bid he can hit.

By: geo

geo — Fri, 15 Mar 2019 23:05:52 +0000

Another 10 or so posts on football and I’ll start longing for the threads on politics.

personally, when it comes to off topic topics I’m a bit more partial to booze, drugs, pizza and bagels…oh yeah, and farfa’s singing…

By: Ntilakilla

Ntilakilla — Fri, 15 Mar 2019 22:45:20 +0000

The best quarterback of my youth was Dan Marino and he only made one SB I think.

Joe Montana and John Elway were better.

By: Owen

Owen — Fri, 15 Mar 2019 22:40:55 +0000

The other thing I remember about the WOW is that Peyton Manning was the lone exception to the rule that elite quarterbacks are inconsistent.

He was always good. Until he won a super bowl while being quite bad.

The best quarterback of my youth was Dan Marino and he only made one SB I think.

Re there being a lot of good quarterbacks on the list of guys to play in the SB. There are a lot of good and bad quarterbacks on that list. Also, a lot of guys who, if they had never started a SB, would have been consigned to the dustbin of history.

I don’t know, love to know how football outsiders or whatever the state of the art place is now has to say on the issue. No one denies that QB is the most important position on the football field but I think any single NBA player can have a much much bigger impact.