I don’t know if I’d say “exciting” as much as”unsettling but intriguing” because despite what anyone thinks right now about KP, his ceiling is still HOF-level player.

I will literally eat a Bargnani jersey if he makes the Hall of Fame.

Noble, IDK. Philly has 6 guys under contract next year, if butler opt out, for $47M. Butler will get the max, so they will be at $80M. Sure, Harris doesn’t get his max of $33M, but you have to figure it will cost them $25 to keep him, so that’s $105M. Their first round pick will bring them close to the cap. They don’t have bird rights on JJ, so he’s not staying, unless they sign him first and then sign the other 2 guys. If they do that, he’s gotta get $10M, right? They can keep Mcconnell, but again he’s got to demand 6-7. If they just keep both Harris and Butler, draft a player, and keep Mcconnell, they are at 10 guys, over $110M, near the point where they don’t get the exception. Plus….3 more slots to fill.

This is mostly inaccurate and/or misleading. Since Philly is just trying to keep their own Bird Rights guys, the cap itself barely matters. They can blow past it with no issue. Butler’s 7-9 year max starts at $32.4M. The 5th year is for $42.7M, but I have no idea where you got $47M. Same goes for Harris.

They don’t have full Bird Rights on Redick, but they do have his EB Rights and that will definitely be sufficient to re-sign him. I mean, if they’re so inclined they can offer him up to 4/$96M! Obviously they won’t do that but my point is they can blow right past the cap to re-sign him with no problem.

To top it all off, even if they max out all of these guys (including Redick) they’ll only be in the LT by $1M or so next year. They can easily get below it if they need to. Sure, after Simmons extension they’ll be paying it for a while but I’m pretty damn certain they’ve planned for that.

Edit: I forgot about McConnell, but it doesn’t really make a difference. They have his full Bird Rights, so this will only be an issue if their ownership is super LT weary.

And he shot his way out of Dodge City so I couldn’t give 2 shits whether he lives or dies frankly. We got a very reasonable price for him under the circumstances and don’t have to lock up 153M on the come.

well, there it is…

you’re either with us – or – fuck em…

i am though kind of curious to see how things play out for him next year – more so, just cuz i’m pessimistic on him; and, i wanna see if i was right…i think dallas will do all they can to put him in the best possible position to succeed…attitude aside – as bob mentioned, i just don’t believe his stamina and physical being will hold up over the course of a season and in to the playoffs…

Oh, I agree that if the circumstances were different I would have been fine with keeping Porzingis, but given that he made it a point to make it very clear he didn’t want to stay, I’m happy with the outcome.

If we had preemptively extended him for example we could be looking at a much worse situation, with teams weary of trading for him with a giant contract and this injury, salaries would have been harder to match, etc.

I won’t say the result of the entire KP saga was amazing, but it was better than it could have been for sure too.

I don’t know if I’d say “exciting” as much as”unsettling but intriguing” because despite what anyone thinks right now about KP, his ceiling is still HOF-level player.

The operative question is what are the chances of him reaching his seemingly limitless potential/skill set.

The guy is 7’3″ coming off ACL surgery with no comps to go by. He has had other semi serious leg injuries for a young person, too.

The guy has had serious stamina issues all 3 seasons and I’m guessing it isn’t as simple as giving him more B-12. I think this is more serious than the knee potentially. the chances of him playing at a high level in games 90-95 of an NBA playoff run seem close to nil.

He seems to have an overt sense of entitlement which doesn’t argue for the type of person that will put in the effort to be great.

And he shot his way out of Dodge City so I couldn’t give 2 shits whether he lives or dies frankly. We got a very reasonable price for him under the circumstances and don’t have to lock up 153M on the come.

The nice thing is I don’t have to burn a single mole of glucose or beta hydroxy butyrate thinking about him ever again…..

Very best case for Phily seems to be to keep their 4, maybe McConnell and get a draft pick, and be over the cap. Likely case is they either keep 3 and one of reddick / mcconnell, or possibly both, with JJ on a 1 year deal.

But….if they keep all 4…….Simmons gets paid in 2020. So, he’s going to be $25M, Embied will be $29M, Butler will be $35M, Harris will be $25M. Over $100M with 4 guys; add in whoever the draft and they are near the cap with 5 guys. and, they will be like that for 3 straight years.

It’s exciting because it’s simple and straight forward, and the KP deal is extra exciting in this sense because it puts us forcibly in the right direction, since there’s no pressure about building around him or keeping him happy anymore.

I don’t know if I’d say “exciting” as much as”unsettling but intriguing” because despite what anyone thinks right now about KP, his ceiling is still HOF-level player. Nobody really knows what he will evolve into. The current evidence is cause for guarded pessimism (or optimism that we didn’t blow it) but if he comes back fully healthy and figures out how to bottle what he showed coming out of the gate last year while adding bulk and intelligence, well, I don’t even want to think about it.

As opposed to the other guys we’re excited about adding (or in fear about adding) because we totally know who they are.

Believe me, given the circumstances, dealing KP was the intelligent move, pretty much a no-brainer. But if he actually wanted to be here and we dealt him anyway, I’d be much more upset than I am right now.