Comments on: Knicks Morning News (2019.01.19)

By: TheOakmanCometh

TheOakmanCometh — Sun, 20 Jan 2019 05:08:18 +0000

Right, but that’s sort of like saying that THJ is a productive player who misses shots too much.

By: DRed

DRed — Sun, 20 Jan 2019 04:58:44 +0000

Mitch is not a very good player right now, but he does lots of things that might make him good one day.

Mitch is a productive player already who fouls too much. On a rate basis he’s probably the best player on the Knicks

By: TheOakmanCometh

TheOakmanCometh — Sun, 20 Jan 2019 04:58:07 +0000

I don’t understand why Chicago gets its ass kicked every game. They have LaVine, Markannen, Portis, Parker, Carter (and formerly Holiday) — all of whom are decent offensive players — yet are somehow last in the league in offense by a country mile.

By: The Infamous Cdiggy

The Infamous Cdiggy — Sun, 20 Jan 2019 04:31:24 +0000

OT: watching this Lakers/Rockets game late. Lakers tried hard, but that KCP wtf airball 3 was the beginning of the end for them. Ingram got hot late and has the makings of someone who can’t be guarded by a smaller guy.

And speaking of can’t be guarded: that Harden step back 3 is unguardable. What a run he’s having.

By: Z-man

Z-man — Sun, 20 Jan 2019 03:42:53 +0000

It’s pretty amazing (and sad) that some here will go to such great lengths to hang onto hope about Frank.

By: TheOakmanCometh

TheOakmanCometh — Sun, 20 Jan 2019 02:06:51 +0000

Qualitative skills evaluation is probably more useful for projecting 20 year olds than assessing current impact. I worry about Frank not because of his box score stats or advanced stats, but because he shows so few glimmers of any skill that could eventually turn into something good. Mitch is not a very good player right now, but he does lots of things that might make him good one day. Knox, too, has flashed abilities that could turn him from putrid to good in a few years.

Frank just hasn ‘t. His offense is so nothing that he will be unplayable as a guard no matter how good his D. He is a complete non-threat with and without the ball. Yeah he’s young, but so is Dragan Bender. So is Marquese Chriss. So is Georgios Papagiannis. All those guys are 21-year old former lottery picks. What would you trade for them?

By: Hubert

Hubert — Sun, 20 Jan 2019 02:05:21 +0000

I am not kidding. The next two sentences that you cut out of that quote were:

The efficiency leap from age 20 to 21, across a very wide sample, is enormous. Making conclusive judgments on Frank before he’s 21 is unwise for any of us.

I find it odd that you’re focused on the literalness of an analogy that obviously steeped in hyperbole. But suit yourself.

I will further concede that a player’s age 19 season is, in fact, more predictive than being a Leo. You got me there, too.

By: DRed

DRed — Sun, 20 Jan 2019 01:58:50 +0000

What someone does in their 19-20 year old seasons obviously means something. And it’s obviously better to play well than do whatever it is Frank is doing. There just aren’t enough of these seasons to draw strong conclusions from

By: ptmilo

ptmilo — Sun, 20 Jan 2019 01:53:26 +0000

You know full well I was responding to the notion that the production of a 20 year sophomore player is *conclusive*.

are you kidding

you:
An NBA player’s age 19 season is as useful in forecasting his future success as his zodiac sign. An age 20 season is barely more useful.

my response:

this is a greg anthony corner three overshoot. when age 20 isn’t your rookie year, the results are quite indicative, though of course far from dispositive.

By: Grocer

Grocer — Sun, 20 Jan 2019 01:44:31 +0000

@40. We know that Mitch fouls stupidly on inconsequential plays, gonna go out on a limb and say he’s likely to do it when it matters as well. His poor positioning could be another reason you don’t want him out there on a set play but that’s not the point. Not saying you’re wrong necessarily, just saying there’s no reason to assume the reason is “Fiz likes whoever better than Mitch.” There’s no evidence for any of that shit.