I pretty much disagree with every word.

For better or worse, it’s obvious what Phil was doing.

Phil inherited a team of misfits, malcontents, and dimwits that was barren of 1st round picks. He decided to get rid of those players and go from there. The goal was always to build simultaneously through free agents and picks. He said a much constantly.

Then he learned lesson #1. Top free agents do not come to bad teams no matter what city you are in, how many rings you have, and especially if they see you as an old out of touch white dude.

Then he learned lesson #2. Melo is a self centered low IQ pinhead. He was arrogant and wrong to think he could succeed in changing him when 2 coaches of the year had failed.

Despite that and the Noah debacle, he was at least slowly accumulating some decent two way players, had 20m of cap space, and all his picks going forward when he was fired.

The current management is nothing like him.

They inherited 20m of cap space, a few decent young players, and all their 1st round picks with the stated goal of getting better. But they are so terrible at evaluating talent, they let a few of the decent role players go (or traded them), brought in worse one way players, and clobbered the 20m of cap space with a player that Phil tossed. So it’s two years and 20+ million dollars later and we are a worse team.

ZION cheering aside, we are here because they have been terrible at evaluating talent and valuing players so far. The one exception being Vonleh. We were like 12-13 deep in offensive players and had no real PF. Ray Charles could have seen that one.

This may come off as a defense of Phil because everyone here hates him. It’s not. Phil made a few big mistakes, but he knows the game. These guys are clueless.

Robinson, Vonleh, Dotson, Trier and Frank. They won’t score, but I still want to see it.

We don’t score now, so ¯_(?)_/¯

Again, asking me what deal I would have done at the time is the kind of nonsense I expect to hear on talk radio. It’s impossible to know who was interested in any of our players and what was offered if anything. If you throw out an actual deal that was on the table (not rumored or put out by some agent), I’d be glad to tell what I would have done.

Again, discussing free agents is equally difficult. It doesn’t matter who was available and how much space we had, if your team sucks no one will come. That’s the exact the position we’ve been in numerous times. Typically we’ve filled it with bad value deals instead of rolling it over.

I specifically said that for this thought exercise you can feel free to assume that any free agent outside of the top-15 or so players would’ve come to the Knicks if the money was equal. I’m really making this as easy as possible for you.

I’m going to assume the reason you refuse to answer is because when you look at the list of these transactions it becomes glaringly obvious that, almost without exception, they all would’ve constituted bad moves for the Knicks. The reason I think you advocate for them is because the “sign unexceptional free agents and hope for the best” approach is similar to that of a certain Knicks GM who was laughed out of town.

You are correct to be skeptical of the new regime, but your reasons for doubting them are backwards. To the extent that they’ve failed, it’s because their moves have been insufficiently made with an eye towards the future. THJ’s deal, not trading KOQ, trading a pick for Mudiay’s expiring contract, not getting the Kanter/Willy situation settled earlier, and not getting player options on Vonleh/Hezonja are some examples of poor execution because they mirrored Phil’s approach.

The current front office has had its most success when it has leaned toward the approach you hate.

#Robinson #Frank

The Pacers should consider making a move. Both are too good to only be playing a little over 25 minutes and I don’t think they are ideal together. The could probably get a very good piece that’s more of a compliment to the others if they moved one of them.