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		By: Sir Robin		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2019 15:33:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@319-Holzmansghost-perfect expression of the last 50 years of Knick history.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@319-Holzmansghost-perfect expression of the last 50 years of Knick history.</p>
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		By: Holzmansghost		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2019 15:16:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I still can remember sitting in the blues above the playoff series between the Bullets and the Knicks in 1970. I was hooked and in heaven (literally and figuratively). For an increasingly smaller number of NY fans, the Knicks were what made basketball so alluring. Every year of this team&#039;s existence since has been a steadily eroding sense of joy and, by extension, loyalty. From Bernard King&#039;s evaporating knee, to Charles Smith&#039;s failed put-back, to Ewing&#039;s missed finger roll and to the s**tstorm that&#039;s ensued, I&#039;m convinced these are the last words I&#039;ll ever utter here. So, fare thee well, my fellow masochists!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still can remember sitting in the blues above the playoff series between the Bullets and the Knicks in 1970. I was hooked and in heaven (literally and figuratively). For an increasingly smaller number of NY fans, the Knicks were what made basketball so alluring. Every year of this team&#8217;s existence since has been a steadily eroding sense of joy and, by extension, loyalty. From Bernard King&#8217;s evaporating knee, to Charles Smith&#8217;s failed put-back, to Ewing&#8217;s missed finger roll and to the s**tstorm that&#8217;s ensued, I&#8217;m convinced these are the last words I&#8217;ll ever utter here. So, fare thee well, my fellow masochists!</p>
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		By: Knick fan not in NJ who thinks our rookies will lead us to a lousy lottery pick in 2019		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Knick fan not in NJ who thinks our rookies will lead us to a lousy lottery pick in 2019]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2019 12:17:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Grocer, your Haiku is good too]]></description>
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		By: Max		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2019 11:30:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@312

In the East that&#039;s easily a playoff team, my over/under will be 47,5.

FWIW 
Once the details are finally defined, 
Pelton gave us a B and Dallas a C-, Duncan and Laroux think the FO did a nice job even if Laroux call us &quot;right now from a basketball prospective an empty canvass&quot;, while the guys at 538 had only partial info at the time of their roundtable (and some of them suffer from PTSD being former Knick&#039;s beat or fans, just like us).

Duncan &#038; Laroux released (Patreon subscribers only) the updated cap situation, 
using 1st pick value for projected draft expenses (Zion will get 9.65 Mil in the first year), including roster charges for empty roster spots and the dead money for Noah and LT (1 Mil guaranteed).

I&#039;m a bit surprised, it&#039;s less then I thought: 

69,5 Mil even declining Trier option and with only 6 players signed (Knox, MitchRob, Frank, Dot, DSJ, 1st, we could resign Kornet and Vonleh later in different ways).

Max contracts for KD and Kyrie sums up around 71 Mil so there&#039;s still work to do but I&#039;m sure they&#039;re counting pennies and dimes to try it...

P.S. 
Or they could take slightly less then the max to join forces... they just need to renounce 1 Mil each :-)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@312</p>
<p>In the East that&#8217;s easily a playoff team, my over/under will be 47,5.</p>
<p>FWIW<br />
Once the details are finally defined,<br />
Pelton gave us a B and Dallas a C-, Duncan and Laroux think the FO did a nice job even if Laroux call us &#8220;right now from a basketball prospective an empty canvass&#8221;, while the guys at 538 had only partial info at the time of their roundtable (and some of them suffer from PTSD being former Knick&#8217;s beat or fans, just like us).</p>
<p>Duncan &amp; Laroux released (Patreon subscribers only) the updated cap situation,<br />
using 1st pick value for projected draft expenses (Zion will get 9.65 Mil in the first year), including roster charges for empty roster spots and the dead money for Noah and LT (1 Mil guaranteed).</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a bit surprised, it&#8217;s less then I thought: </p>
<p>69,5 Mil even declining Trier option and with only 6 players signed (Knox, MitchRob, Frank, Dot, DSJ, 1st, we could resign Kornet and Vonleh later in different ways).</p>
<p>Max contracts for KD and Kyrie sums up around 71 Mil so there&#8217;s still work to do but I&#8217;m sure they&#8217;re counting pennies and dimes to try it&#8230;</p>
<p>P.S.<br />
Or they could take slightly less then the max to join forces&#8230; they just need to renounce 1 Mil each 🙂</p>
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		By: Brian Cronin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian Cronin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2019 11:09:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://knickerblogger.net/2019/01/espn-com-dallas-mavericks-agree-to-trade-with-new-york-knicks-for-kristaps-porzingis/#comment-647431&quot;&gt;Brian Cronin&lt;/a&gt;.

As an aside, what the fuck is up with the shitty Pistons? Barely beating the Mavs with such a short roster (and no Luka). With the &lt;i&gt;win&lt;/i&gt;, they&#039;re still just 22-28! Dang! And yet they&#039;re just two games out of the playoffs. Double dang!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://knickerblogger.net/2019/01/espn-com-dallas-mavericks-agree-to-trade-with-new-york-knicks-for-kristaps-porzingis/#comment-647431">Brian Cronin</a>.</p>
<p>As an aside, what the fuck is up with the shitty Pistons? Barely beating the Mavs with such a short roster (and no Luka). With the <i>win</i>, they&#8217;re still just 22-28! Dang! And yet they&#8217;re just two games out of the playoffs. Double dang!</p>
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		By: Brian Cronin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian Cronin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2019 11:07:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://knickerblogger.net/2019/01/espn-com-dallas-mavericks-agree-to-trade-with-new-york-knicks-for-kristaps-porzingis/#comment-647430&quot;&gt;english_knick&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks for the info. I didn&#039;t even look into it myself, I just assumed the dudes reporting it knew what they were talking about. My mistake there. Seems like they can get pretty much there, though, by simply not drafting #1, right? I mean, of course, we want them to draft #1, but I mean if they draft even #2, that opens up the extra $1.4 million they&#039;d need to get to $69, right?

But yeah, that would mean only having the room and so it&#039;d be Vonleh &lt;i&gt;or&lt;/i&gt; another guy instead of Vonleh &lt;i&gt;and&lt;/i&gt; another guy. 

Still, in such a scenario, obviously we know that there are decent guys willing to take the vet minimum to play with KD and Irving, so I don&#039;t think it changes the math &lt;i&gt;too&lt;/i&gt; much on what we can expect from next year&#039;s team (by the way, if they &lt;i&gt;did&lt;/i&gt; get the #1 pick, then I bet it&#039;d be even more likely that KD and Irving would be willing to shave $700,000 each off of their deals to play with Zion, ya know?)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://knickerblogger.net/2019/01/espn-com-dallas-mavericks-agree-to-trade-with-new-york-knicks-for-kristaps-porzingis/#comment-647430">english_knick</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks for the info. I didn&#8217;t even look into it myself, I just assumed the dudes reporting it knew what they were talking about. My mistake there. Seems like they can get pretty much there, though, by simply not drafting #1, right? I mean, of course, we want them to draft #1, but I mean if they draft even #2, that opens up the extra $1.4 million they&#8217;d need to get to $69, right?</p>
<p>But yeah, that would mean only having the room and so it&#8217;d be Vonleh <i>or</i> another guy instead of Vonleh <i>and</i> another guy. </p>
<p>Still, in such a scenario, obviously we know that there are decent guys willing to take the vet minimum to play with KD and Irving, so I don&#8217;t think it changes the math <i>too</i> much on what we can expect from next year&#8217;s team (by the way, if they <i>did</i> get the #1 pick, then I bet it&#8217;d be even more likely that KD and Irving would be willing to shave $700,000 each off of their deals to play with Zion, ya know?)</p>
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		By: english_knick		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2019 10:50:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Unfortunately Brian, I actually don’t think we do have that much space. If we waive Lance we’ve got 28m committed to 6 guys - Dot, Mitch, Knox, Frank, DSj and trier (and including Noah’s dead money).  

Add a cap hold for our 1Rp - if no 1 that’s close to 10m. 

Five empty roster charges - another 4m. So 42m and a cap of 108. About 66m in room. A ten year max and a 6-9 year max come to about 69m, though you can net two roster charges off that (67.6). Basically, to fully max KD and Kyrie they’d have to take slightly under the max or we’d have to release trier or resign him under the room exception, although it will be easier if we pick lower.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately Brian, I actually don’t think we do have that much space. If we waive Lance we’ve got 28m committed to 6 guys &#8211; Dot, Mitch, Knox, Frank, DSj and trier (and including Noah’s dead money).  </p>
<p>Add a cap hold for our 1Rp &#8211; if no 1 that’s close to 10m. </p>
<p>Five empty roster charges &#8211; another 4m. So 42m and a cap of 108. About 66m in room. A ten year max and a 6-9 year max come to about 69m, though you can net two roster charges off that (67.6). Basically, to fully max KD and Kyrie they’d have to take slightly under the max or we’d have to release trier or resign him under the room exception, although it will be easier if we pick lower.</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2019 10:11:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;KD and Kyrie to NYC? Why the Knicks’ Kristap Porzingis trade left rival execs - and perhaps even the Celtics - thinking it was more possible than ever &lt;a href=&quot;https://t.co/5MaN2vbNh1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https://t.co/5MaN2vbNh1&lt;/a&gt;&#8212; Sam Amick (@sam_amick) &lt;a href=&quot;https://twitter.com/sam_amick/status/1091180917916192770?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;February 1, 2019&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>KD and Kyrie to NYC? Why the Knicks’ Kristap Porzingis trade left rival execs &#8211; and perhaps even the Celtics &#8211; thinking it was more possible than ever <a href="https://t.co/5MaN2vbNh1" rel="nofollow">https://t.co/5MaN2vbNh1</a>&mdash; Sam Amick (@sam_amick) <a href="https://twitter.com/sam_amick/status/1091180917916192770?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" rel="nofollow">February 1, 2019</a></p></blockquote>
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		By: Brian Cronin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian Cronin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2019 09:55:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://knickerblogger.net/2019/01/espn-com-dallas-mavericks-agree-to-trade-with-new-york-knicks-for-kristaps-porzingis/#comment-647427&quot;&gt;Brian Cronin&lt;/a&gt;.

Let&#039;s say that the Knicks get Irving and Durant. That&#039;d be amazing, of course. That would still leave them with, like, $5 million, I believe. You could probably re-sign Vonleh and then use the room exception to get someone else decent (or reverse that and sign someone else and use the room on Vonleh). 

Let&#039;s say they get, I dunno, Barrett (I figure he&#039;s a nice medium result between great and terrible lottery luck).

So your starting five is:

Irving
Trier
Durant
Knox
Robinson (maybe you start Vonleh to keep Robinson out of foul trouble early?)
 
with Barrett, Frank, Dotson, DSJ, Vonleh, room exception guy A, re-signed Kornet (he&#039;d be restricted and they can use up to the mid-level on him to bring him back, so he&#039;ll be back) and a couple of vet minimum guys/undrafted picks.

How many wins do you think that team gets next year? That&#039;s not a rhetorical question, I&#039;m curious as to what people think.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://knickerblogger.net/2019/01/espn-com-dallas-mavericks-agree-to-trade-with-new-york-knicks-for-kristaps-porzingis/#comment-647427">Brian Cronin</a>.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s say that the Knicks get Irving and Durant. That&#8217;d be amazing, of course. That would still leave them with, like, $5 million, I believe. You could probably re-sign Vonleh and then use the room exception to get someone else decent (or reverse that and sign someone else and use the room on Vonleh). </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s say they get, I dunno, Barrett (I figure he&#8217;s a nice medium result between great and terrible lottery luck).</p>
<p>So your starting five is:</p>
<p>Irving<br />
Trier<br />
Durant<br />
Knox<br />
Robinson (maybe you start Vonleh to keep Robinson out of foul trouble early?)</p>
<p>with Barrett, Frank, Dotson, DSJ, Vonleh, room exception guy A, re-signed Kornet (he&#8217;d be restricted and they can use up to the mid-level on him to bring him back, so he&#8217;ll be back) and a couple of vet minimum guys/undrafted picks.</p>
<p>How many wins do you think that team gets next year? That&#8217;s not a rhetorical question, I&#8217;m curious as to what people think.</p>
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		By: Brian Cronin		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2019 09:32:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://knickerblogger.net/2019/01/espn-com-dallas-mavericks-agree-to-trade-with-new-york-knicks-for-kristaps-porzingis/#comment-647426&quot;&gt;geo&lt;/a&gt;.

By the way, KP&#039;s qualifying offer lowered to just $4.5 million due to time missed. Therefore, is that serious leverage? &quot;I&#039;ll take $4.5 million and hope for $150 million the following instead of just taking the $150 million now!&quot; Seems like BS.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://knickerblogger.net/2019/01/espn-com-dallas-mavericks-agree-to-trade-with-new-york-knicks-for-kristaps-porzingis/#comment-647426">geo</a>.</p>
<p>By the way, KP&#8217;s qualifying offer lowered to just $4.5 million due to time missed. Therefore, is that serious leverage? &#8220;I&#8217;ll take $4.5 million and hope for $150 million the following instead of just taking the $150 million now!&#8221; Seems like BS.</p>
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