Comments on: Knicks Morning News (2018.11.21)

By: mase

mase — Wed, 21 Nov 2018 17:30:10 +0000

He USG rate on a better team goes down and he becomes less effective, that’s the problem in a nutshell with his value since he probably doesn’t start on a good team. So a trade would have to be with another bad team if they wanted to trade him for a expiring … it’s the jr smith conundrum if we traded with the bulls. Let’s say straight swap jr for Timmy, is that good return for us? And How do you determine that?

By: Donnie Walsh

Donnie Walsh — Wed, 21 Nov 2018 17:01:24 +0000

Right now Mills is more likely thinking “this is why I signed Tim Hardaway”, not “I better trade him now before he comes back down to earth.”

Other than taking 7 more shots per game, there is virtually zero difference between the Knicks’ 2018-19 Hardaway and the Hawks’ 2016-17 Hardaway.

By: Stratomatic "In economic terms, the Knicks are in a double dip recession"

Stratomatic "In economic terms, the Knicks are in a double dip recession" — Wed, 21 Nov 2018 16:39:28 +0000

Right now Mills is more likely thinking “this is why I signed Tim Hardaway”, not “I better trade him now before he comes back down to earth.”

I agree.

These guys obviously value scorers more than defenders. They love Timmy right now.

By: Hubert

Hubert — Wed, 21 Nov 2018 16:22:36 +0000

Right now Mills is more likely thinking “this is why I signed Tim Hardaway”, not “I better trade him now before he comes back down to earth.”

By: Owen

Owen — Wed, 21 Nov 2018 15:24:25 +0000

Hardaway has great end to end speed but little lateral quickness or strength. Often when I watch him I think he doesn’t really looo like an NBA level athlete, at least on the defensive end. I think trading him before the bloom is off the rose would be really smart but I appreciate how well he is playing for us right now.

By: ptmilo

ptmilo — Wed, 21 Nov 2018 14:51:28 +0000

TH2 had played really well. The 9 charges are nice, and so is the mindfulness app he seems to be using, but I still think he’s a material defensive liability. Even so, he’s not a big, so his offense has been good enough that he could produce around his $ cost in value if he keeps it up, in a prime Alex English sorta way. But if that meant we could ditch the contract for roughly nothing I would still do it, because I think there’s more downside from here than upside, and his play this year and most likely next year won’t do much of anything for us. but it’s been fun to watch him play well. we’ve rarely had more unanimity on this blog than applauding phil for somehow getting a first rounder for timmy after his crappy sophomore year, and you have to appreciate any world where reality will check knickerblogger for its Pollyanna optimism

By: DRed

DRed — Wed, 21 Nov 2018 14:47:09 +0000

A buddy of mine proposed this trade:

Knicks:
Timmy
Lee

Memphis
Parsons
Green or Temple

Basically it would save us ~5 million next year and then get the last year of Timmy’s contract off our books

By: DRed

DRed — Wed, 21 Nov 2018 14:39:30 +0000

Long term I think this will help us trade him

By: Z-man

Z-man — Wed, 21 Nov 2018 14:39:09 +0000

There are only 8 players with 400+ minutes with a usage above 29% with a higher TS% (.570) than TH2:
LBJ, KD, Kemba, Harden, Giannis, Lillard, Embiid and Kawhi. That’s pretty freakin’ elite company! And if you use eFG% he only has 6 players higher than him (Lillard and Embiid drop down.)

There is then a dropoff to DeRozan (.556) Booker (.554) and LaVine (.549)

Lou W (.535) , Oladipo (.533) and Donovan (.505!!) round out the list.

By: Stratomatic "In economic terms, the Knicks are in a double dip recession"

Stratomatic "In economic terms, the Knicks are in a double dip recession" — Wed, 21 Nov 2018 14:37:30 +0000

My main issue with Hardaway has always been shot selection, decision making, and occasional “hero” ball.

That said, he’s clearly playing a lot better on offense this year. I would go as far as to say he’s playing better right now than even at the beginning of the season. He’s starting to look and act more like a seasoned pro than a young player that has no idea what he’s doing.

I’m not sure what the issue is with him on defense. Maybe someone else knows. He seems athletic and fast enough. He tries hard. But guys seem to beat him and get off their shots way too easy. Maybe he’s not long enough to alter shots or something. If he could just get to “average” on defense, I’d have no problem keeping him at this price if he can sustain his current behavior and results on the court.

He’s the #1 option on a bad team that gets very few assists yet so far he’s sustaining a career high TS% on even higher volume. That’s a shock to me.