Comments on: Knicks Morning News (2018.11.20)

By: Stratomatic "In economic terms, the Knicks are in a double dip recession"

Stratomatic "In economic terms, the Knicks are in a double dip recession" — Wed, 21 Nov 2018 00:46:40 +0000

I normally wouldn’t have agreed with your position here, Strato. But it’s exactly what the Clippers did and it’s looking pretty good for them.

I’m not sure what you mean.

I think the Clippers have generally been doing a very good job of moving past the CP3, Jordan, Griffin team with trades that have kept them pretty good without going into all out tank mode for 5-10 years. They got some quality players back in trades. They have the flexibility so sign the good veterans back and can add more. They are in a good spot, though they overpaid for Gallo.

By: swiftandabundant

swiftandabundant — Tue, 20 Nov 2018 22:55:30 +0000

Like what if Frank ends up being a guy who only averages like 8 to 10 points a game but he’s a monster on defense and plays smart, team ball and is versatile enough on the defensive side to be plugged into a lot of line ups. He’s all ready showing that he can hold his own against 4’s in short spurts. His versatility, especially on defense, could mean he’s a guy that you can plug into a lot of 5 man line ups, giving the coach a lot to work with and he might get a lot less than say DSJ bc he doesn’t score POINTZ.

By: swiftandabundant

swiftandabundant — Tue, 20 Nov 2018 22:53:34 +0000

I keep saying this but Frank’s lack of offensive aggression could really work out in the Knicks favor long run. First of all, he’s got 2 more years after this one on his rookie contract but even in that time, even with KP coming back and maybe some better teammates next year via the draft and free agency…Frank still may never be a plus on the offensive side. But this could be a great thing for us! Players who score ALWAYS get paid more in free agency than players who don’t. Frank might be a guy who will not get a huge pay upgrade after his rookie year and ends up outperforming his first non rookie contract because of that.

By: ptmilo

ptmilo — Tue, 20 Nov 2018 22:37:02 +0000

It seems strange to me that Markelle’s advisors think the best way to protect him is to keep saying how injured he might be

By: danvt

danvt — Tue, 20 Nov 2018 22:32:43 +0000

Oh, and since we don’t talk B-ball all the time…

What do you guys thing about the NYY James Paxton deal?

By: danvt

danvt — Tue, 20 Nov 2018 22:26:04 +0000

I’m not really interested in developing the next Norris Cole or anyone else who’s primary responsibility is to dump the ball into the post or hand it off at the top of the key. If FN can’t be a two way player “off with his head”. What I like is that we WILL know the answer. I’m hoping we don’t already know it but that hope is diminishing. One thing about Fiz is that, unlike Hornacek, he will find the answers to NYK’s persistent questions. No one’s languishing on the bench a la Hernangomez last year. It seems like we’re actively sorting our roster and doing a marvelous job of tanking as we do.

The true key to the future is KP. If he comes back strong we’ll be fine, if not, ooh…

Also, can we turn this misery into Zion, Cam Reddish, Bol…?

If we get three rotation players out of this and last years draft, and the above questions are answered in the affirmative, we’ll be great. That’ll be the key luring quality FA’s as well.

By: nicos

nicos — Tue, 20 Nov 2018 21:37:49 +0000

Frank’s offensive tools are what exactly? Seriously, he’s poor ball-handler, a terrible shooter (26% on threes 100% of which have been either open or wide open so just stop with the he’s got a nice stroke nonsense) and offers little in the way of playmaking. He throws a nice pocket pass in pnr’s- that’s the sum total of his offensive skill set. That’s not a bad skill to have but when you’re completely incapable of scoring yourself it makes it tough to take advantage of.

By: Hubert

Hubert — Tue, 20 Nov 2018 21:25:08 +0000

If Mitch and Frank were baseball players they would be raw, four-tool players in AA and no one would be making bold proclamations about the absolute certainty of their future.

Knox would be a one-tool player who hits really long home runs in batting practice that everyone knows will suck because he can only hit straight fastballs.

By: nicos

nicos — Tue, 20 Nov 2018 21:17:01 +0000

Mitch is an elite defensive SS who doesn’t hit much, Frank is a pretty good defensive center fielder who can’t hit at all.

By: Hubert

Hubert — Tue, 20 Nov 2018 21:03:08 +0000

Your assumption is that players that we would want for the long term will sign with a team that sucks and is rebuilding.

My assumption is that those kinds of players often won’t be willing to sign with a bad rebuilding team unless you overpay them.

That’s why it can make sense to take on short term contracts.

You can continue to draft young players, look for undrafted role players, make trades, develop the long term core etc… Then you use the cap space a year or two later when the team is attractive enough for someone good to want to come. This is not some desired strategy or outcome. It’s sometimes the best option available. So you do that instead of signing some bum to a long term contract or renting out cap space by taking on a horrible contract for a pick that’s not worth the trouble.

I normally wouldn’t have agreed with your position here, Strato. But it’s exactly what the Clippers did and it’s looking pretty good for them.